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Re: 98 v70: fail to start when cold

Post by abscate »

CIK7 wrote: 19 Oct 2023, 13:19
scot850 wrote: 19 Oct 2023, 13:08 Coolant Temperature sensor. It is the sensor just under the thermostat in the housing (the item in your 17.43 post yesterday on this thread).

Neil.
So it stands for Electronic Coolant Temperature I assume. I have the new coolant temp sensor on the way. Will report back, likely after the 23rd.

I think its Engine Coolant Temperature sensor but VIDA would tell you for certain.

Taiwan makes excellent package boxes for products.

Let us know how that fuel pump relay works, Ive got spare OE ones if needed.
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I bought one of the coolant temp sensors on clearance at Rock Auto. It is an SMP part and is actually boxed as an Intermotor part. I used Intermotor parts on my first Volvo back in 1975 as they were usually ok parts and would work well. I would not have any issue trying their part in an emergency, but my preference would still be an OE part for the work involved. Mind you, how long will they still be available as an OE part, so now is the time for you to be the guinea pig! Let us know how it goes! Thanks.

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scot850 wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 12:46 I bought one of the coolant temp sensors on clearance at Rock Auto. It is an SMP part and is actually boxed as an Intermotor part. I used Intermotor parts on my first Volvo back in 1975 as they were usually ok parts and would work well. I would not have any issue trying their part in an emergency, but my preference would still be an OE part for the work involved. Mind you, how long will they still be available as an OE part, so now is the time for you to be the guinea pig! Let us know how it goes! Thanks.

Neil.
Yes the coolant temp sensor and fuel pump relay were both listed as Standard but arrived in Intermotor boxes. Intermotor is one of their brands.

Quote from Wiki: 'Some Standard products are sold under private labels, including CARQUEST, Cold Power, Duralast, Duralast Gold, Import Direct, Master Pro, Mileage Plus, Murray, and NAPA (NAPA Belden, NAPA Echlin, NAPA Temp Products). The company's own brands include Standard, BWD/NIEHOFF, Intermotor, OEM, LockSmart, TechSmart, and GP Sorensen for engine management and Four Seasons, Factory Air, EVERCO, ACi, Imperial, COMPRESSORWORKS, TORQFLO, and Hayden for temperature control.'
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The update you've been waiting for! As stated in my 2nd to last post, I did not change out the coolant temp sensor. I did attempt to start this morning with the new fuel pump relay. Success! Now I dont have to worry about not taking the Volvo on my road trip in late march/early April. I had made plans to take the Honda because of the Volvo starting issue. There you have it.
95 854 Turbo 258K, auto, current
09 Rav4 Ltd3.5Fwd, red, 208K, current
98 V GLE/SE red, 379k (277k), 5sp, trailer in progress...
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03 Accord 2dr V6 silver, 196K/214K, 6sp, t-boned, sold
98 S GT white, 175K, 5sp, sold
96 964 silver, 146K, diff&trans/engine self-destr, crushed 😭
98 XC black, 151K, flooded&bent rod, crushed
01 V Base white, 168k, traded for XC
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For general reference information, Antlers, OK would have been about 35 F this morning.
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volvolugnut wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 08:12 For general reference information, Antlers, OK would have been about 35 F this morning.
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It was 82F/65F on Friday and 50F/33F yesterday (Sunday). I recently found an Oklahoma meme that shows the days of the week with the same person per day. One day hes in tshirt/shorts, next day a winter coat, day after that swimsuit, day after a sweatshirt, so on so forth. Thats how it goes in Oklahoma.
95 854 Turbo 258K, auto, current
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03 Accord 2dr V6 silver, 196K/214K, 6sp, t-boned, sold
98 S GT white, 175K, 5sp, sold
96 964 silver, 146K, diff&trans/engine self-destr, crushed 😭
98 XC black, 151K, flooded&bent rod, crushed
01 V Base white, 168k, traded for XC
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Similar idea for Scottish seasons:

https://www.wearenotashop.com/product/p ... h-seasons/

Then on Scottish weather, the saying is:

"If you can see the tops of the mountains it is about to rain, if you can't it already is!"

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CIK7 wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 12:53
volvolugnut wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 08:12 For general reference information, Antlers, OK would have been about 35 F this morning.
volvolugnut
It was 82F/65F on Friday and 50F/33F yesterday (Sunday). I recently found an Oklahoma meme that shows the days of the week with the same person per day. One day hes in tshirt/shorts, next day a winter coat, day after that swimsuit, day after a sweatshirt, so on so forth. Thats how it goes in Oklahoma.
Yup, I live in Oklahoma too. It will be 70's again this weekend.
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volvolugnut wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 08:12 For general reference information, Antlers, OK would have been about 35 F this morning.
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Oh, deer.
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abscate wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 16:39
volvolugnut wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 08:12 For general reference information, Antlers, OK would have been about 35 F this morning.
volvolugnut
Oh, deer.
Arguably the 'oh deer' capital of the world. Maybe two other places in US fight for that. Minnesota is like 500k population, Oklahoma about 750k. Of that, most lives in the eastern third where you can see the green color on Google maps. Lots of hunting in SE OK. The guy I originally bought the Rotten Tomato from (11/21 in FTW, not 12/22 from college kid in Paris) said he has a deer blind just east of Antlers. Small world, eh?
95 854 Turbo 258K, auto, current
09 Rav4 Ltd3.5Fwd, red, 208K, current
98 V GLE/SE red, 379k (277k), 5sp, trailer in progress...
05 CRV EX AWD, Navy, 170K/184k, sold
03 Accord 2dr V6 silver, 196K/214K, 6sp, t-boned, sold
98 S GT white, 175K, 5sp, sold
96 964 silver, 146K, diff&trans/engine self-destr, crushed 😭
98 XC black, 151K, flooded&bent rod, crushed
01 V Base white, 168k, traded for XC
09 Impala LT1 gray, 196K, sold for 01

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