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Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

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Re: What did you do to your Volvo today?

Post by lionblaze55 »

I replaced cabin and engine filters today, prepping for a radiator refresh (new hoses, radiator, tstat and sensor). Not looking forward to replacing the oil cooling lines, but they look leaky and I have new shiny ones that are read to go!
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Post by scot850 »

Are you replacing all the cooling lines or just the connection 'O' rings at the radiator?

On the assumption yours is a 98 T5, then does it have the engine oil cooling lines still fitted? The reason is that Robert DIY has suggested replacing the oil cooler thermostats with a blanking plate and doing away with the thermostat al together.

If you plan to continue using the oil cooler and the lines are being replaced the biggest pain is getting to the bolt at the front of the block which is at a slight angle.

The 2nd thing to ensure the oil thermostat holes do not have old oil burnt into the O' ring holes. Carefully scrape any old oil residue out or you are guaranteed to tear the new 'O' rings on fitting the pipes. Also make sure the retaining strip at the thermostat is flat or it allows the pipes to pull out slightly and leak.

I should add:

When fitting the oil cooler lines at the radiator ends, make sure you watch carefully which way around the metal cages are fitted or they will allow the pipes to leak or blow off. Zip-ties around the cages also help if they are being re-used.

Good Luck!

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Post by MoVolvos »

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Below is for another post about a clunk in the transmission. I happened to installed the improved designed square upper mount from the S60 into the S70 as the hot glue flowed out and down... Clear wet sheen waterfall of glue down the mount and further with some onto the bell housing :shock: .
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Surprised at how much a difference an upper mount can make in the car. I've only changed 2 inserts previously and both were the round poly from IPD. One was for a 98 S70 T5 the other 03 S80 T6. The S70 was black while the S80 was the blue poly. Both cars experience a little more vibration and sound transmission into the cabin.

As for this current mount its turned into an experiment. From the pic you can see the mount had separated at the top and bottom so it's basically shifting from side to side in the mount. It's also deformed being the original with 150K miles. Vibration shakes the dash, glove box and makes the interior creak and squeak. There were also shifting clunks and bumps as the transmission go through it's paces shifting up and down. Lifting the throttle also produced some minor bump and clunks besides during braking. Thought this was just the S70 showing it's age or perhaps the front engine mount near the passenger wheel nearing collapse.

Decided to fill the mount with hot glue to see what the car would behave like with more of a solid mount. Like the poly the hot glue produced some vibration and sound transmission but the other noises including clunking, jolts in shifts and interior noise were all reduced substantially.

This experiment didn't last long as the hot glue melted and flowed out of the mount with engine compartment temp. Since the S60 is out of commission I referenced both FCP and IPD to confirm the square and round upper mounts are interchangeable for the S70 and S60. Perhaps it's the improved square design but the interior is serene compared with the broken and hot glue setup. Dash no longer rattles, shifts off the line is quick and the car interior, kind of hard to describe but like being in the cloud or pillowy as overall cabin sound is greatly reduced and isolated from the exterior. I'm pretty sure I won't go with the round poly seeing how even a used square design has isolate the interior from noise and vibration and made the driving characteristic so smooth and fluid.
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Continued cleaning, identifying and cataloguing all the small parts. 4 days and only 12 bins so far. Eek! Only about another 120 to go... :cry:

It has been an interesting process. Finding old broken parts like the B+ cable from the R that is shorted and burnt through at the main fuse box end. New one fitted 8-9 years ago, so do I still have this?

Other things like now discovering all those TCV's I have are no use to me. They are for 98-99 turbos. 00 cars like our R has a different part number I've now discovered. I'd always assumed there were only 2 TCV's used in P80's, the round one for the 850 turbos and the Pierburg unit that clips onto the side of the air box. The other thing I found is that 4/8 have the clip broken off! How did I not notice that when picking them up from the junkyards?

I have to admit though that working through and identifying and cataloguing all this stuff has a somewhat therapeutic value in terms of trying to ID the parts from memory, then using the phone and laptop with Vida to then follow up and ID locations on the car and part numbers. Finally what other Volvos were the parts used on.

Sad thing, it is amazing me how many parts I can identify and their locations. :o :D

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Post by jsrnsis »

MoVolvos wrote: 09 Nov 2023, 17:24

Decided to fill the mount with hot glue to see what the car would behave like with more of a solid mount. Like the poly the hot glue produced some vibration and sound transmission but the other noises including clunking, jolts in shifts and interior noise were all reduced substantially.

This experiment didn't last long as the hot glue melted and flowed out of the mount with engine compartment temp.
I squeezed the remains of an old tube of caulk into a broken firewall mount that had the center metal bushing completely separated and it seems to be pretty strong while still having some give. Just had to pay attention and keep the bushing centered while I put it down to dry.
scot850 wrote: 09 Nov 2023, 19:06 Continued cleaning, identifying and cataloguing all the small parts. 4 days and only 12 bins so far. Eek! Only about another 120 to go... :cry:

It has been an interesting process. Finding old broken parts like the B+ cable from the R that is shorted and burnt through at the main fuse box end. New one fitted 8-9 years ago, so do I still have this?

I have to admit though that working through and identifying and cataloguing all this stuff has a somewhat therapeutic value in terms of trying to ID the parts from memory, then using the phone and laptop with Vida to then follow up and ID locations on the car and part numbers. Finally what other Volvos were the parts used on.

Neil.
I did that recently, separated things into bins based on used/new, interior vs engine bay etc and wrote down the locations in a notepad. I think I need a living excel sheet with how often I've dug into the hoard now that I know what I have. All it did was make me feel like I needed to stockpile more parts once I saw the prices when looking up part numbers, and realize I had more room in my bins.
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Post by scot850 »

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes it is dangerous looking the stuff up and seeing the prices of some parts. But then there are some that by comparison are not as terrible as I thought and so a new one may be a better option based on work to install v's likely failure of a used part.

Oh, and I do have an Excel spread sheet. I have a hard copy in the garage that I update when I remove parts and that is maybe electronically updated ever 6 months or so. It is scary when you realise how many parts you have!

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Post by 454cid »

I decided to order the ProParts passenger side 850 wiper arm to match the driver's side that I already bought. I've been thinking that the passenger side is probably bent too, since it comes so close to the hood. I also ordered a set of Valeo Ultimate Traditional wiper blades, since the low-line Denso blades didn't fit... Rockauto did issue a refund for those.
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Post by MoVolvos »

jsrnsis wrote: 10 Nov 2023, 05:13
MoVolvos wrote: 09 Nov 2023, 17:24
Decided to fill the mount with hot glue to see what the car would behave like with more of a solid mount. Like the poly the hot glue produced some vibration and sound transmission but the other noises including clunking, jolts in shifts and interior noise were all reduced substantially.

This experiment didn't last long as the hot glue melted and flowed out of the mount with engine compartment temp.
I squeezed the remains of an old tube of caulk into a broken firewall mount that had the center metal bushing completely separated and it seems to be pretty strong while still having some give. Just had to pay attention and keep the bushing centered while I put it down to dry.

What did you use? The high temp chaulk I used did not dry all the way through so wasn't hard. I inserted some thick radiator hoses and filled with the high temp chaulk. Winded up oozing a little.

Though the hot glue was sufficiently hard it couldn't with stand the engine heat. Imagine if the glue stick could handle the heat. Two large sticks was sufficient to fill it.
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Post by 454cid »

I'm confused on all this engine mount fixing.... is this a cheap fix for the sake of budget, or is a suitable replacement part no longer available?
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Post by bmdubya1198 »

454cid wrote: 10 Nov 2023, 18:56 I'm confused on all this engine mount fixing.... is this a cheap fix for the sake of budget, or is a suitable replacement part no longer available?
From what I can tell just an experiment. The part is available and pretty cheap.
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