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XeMODeX ETM validation is POSITIVE (With LIFETIME Warranty)

Do you have a failing Electronic Throttle Module? What steps to take if you do, plus the latest ETM news. Volvo 1999-2002 models only please.
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DonWillson
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XeMODeX ETM validation is POSITIVE (With LIFETIME Warranty)

Post by DonWillson »

I TESTED IT AND IT WORKS B-E-A-U-T-F-U-L-L-Y

Today, January 22, 2009, we installed a XeMODeX ETM in a 2000 XC70 turbo (transverse 5 cylinder) and it works. The car belongs to my daughter-in-law and for the most part she had all the maintenance work done on schedule by the local Volvo dealer. The car had had the software recall performed earlier.
The work was done by Carl Duke in Fort Collins, Colorado, an independent Volvo repair garage withhis own Volvo salvage yard. Mark, the mechanic, had been with the shop for 14 years and had replaced a few ETMs.
Before we could test the installation the car need about $2000 in repairs, springs, brakes, timing belt and idler, serpentine belt and idler, and 90,000 mile maintenance.
I then made some initial tests, cold idle, warm idle, 0-60 and hot idle.
Then Mark replaced the existing yellow label ETM, that indicated that this is already a replacement. The first one had been replaced at 45,000 miles and 2 months out of warranty (though they did get the reimbursement for her out-of-warranty costs.)
It took him just an hour to make the replacement. The car started instantly. I hooked up my code reader/scanner and used it for digital RPM readings. We then took it for a test drive. The idle before surged from 855 to 925 RPM and after from 850 to 855 RPM. Three 0-60 full throttle runs were so close to being the same you would think we had used a 'calibrated' pencil. All about 12.5 to 12.8 seconds. The road was not level but it was the same road each time.
Comments:
The idle variation 'before' is an early symptom of impending failure.
At this time it looks like we now have the 4th R (see http://VEXEDvolvo.org) which is REDESIGN. I see no reason to give this XeMODeX ETM other than an A+. Since the rest of the Magnettl Marelli ETM is of excellent construction, and this replaces the only part that is subject to wear this should be considered a life-of-the-car module.
As far as a DIY job it is not that bad. I will try to have procedures on a new web site in a few days.
Only two size sockets (8mm & 10mm), one Torq (#25) are required. One precaution, do not cut the cable when removing your ETM. Originally it went behind the starter against the engine block. To remove the cable you need to remove the starter. If the ETM has been replaced, yellow label, the cable has probably not been placed behind the starter so the started does not have to be removed. But, if the cable is behind the starter the starter must be removed to get the cable out. If the cable has been cut the ETM is worthless (or worth less) as a rebuildable core.

I am still looking for Volvo forums, especially overseas. If you know of one where this information should be posted e-mail me at [email protected].

Don Willson

(The following is from the original post)


As the word is getting out about XeMODeM's modified Volvo Magnetti Marelli Electronic Throttle Module (ETM) I will try to keep the world (literally) up to date.
Because you are here you know that XeMODeX has announced that they have designed, built and tested a modification to replace the potentiometer Throttle Position Sensor (TPS). This device is form, fit and function identical, but uses a technology which has no mechanical contact to wear out. The result is that we no longer have to wonder when our beloved Volvo will leave us at the side of the road in limp home mode.
Because of the unknown on this new unit there are a lot of questions, such as.
  • Does it work?
  • Will it work on my Volvo?
  • Will it only work if the ETM from my Volvo is modified?
  • Will a modified ETM from a core of unknown origin work?
  • How long does it take to get the rebuild?
  • What is the cost?
  • Is this a "do it yourself" project?
  • Will Volvo Corporation participate in this replacement?

I am working closely with Christopher Golinski, the President of XeMODeX to perform this independent evaluation and answer the above questions.
As of January 7th, 2009 the status is:
  • I have a 2000 Volvo V70 XC available for a test bed with 90,000 miles (about 45,000 miles on the yellow tag ETM)
  • A well respected independent Volvo garage has volunteered to do the exchange.
  • A retired electrical engineer will be assisting with validation.
  • I have shipped 2 cores to XeMODex and they are simultaneously sending me 2 rebuilt units.
  • I am writing a test procedure to be reviewed by XeMODeX so all bases are covered.
I welcome your input on this investigation but please send comments and suggestions to [email protected]. Also, let's keep this topic free from extraneous comments so it does not get bogged with discusson not related to the validation.
Last edited by MadeInJapan on 30 Jan 2009, 01:19, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: Updating with current developments.
Announcing my affiliation with XeMODeX, Inc. as Internet correspondent and consultant to Volvophiles needing help with failing ETMs. See http://FixYourETM.com. For the full history of this problem see http://VEXEDvolvo.org

Checksix
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Post by Checksix »

Any reason this isn't being posted for the 2001 cars too? :roll: I only recently picked up on this at sweedspeed where there was a link to here. Unfortunately since I have an 01 V70 T5a, I was reading a different forum where this is not known on this sight.

Great read and some really good info, please keep us all posted. Mine runs like new with 93K miles, but yes I worry, and this new system w/o having to pay for a steeler's software sounds PERFECT!

Jerry
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73 P1800ES 370K miles (RIP)
73 145 about 320K mile (gone with the "X" long ago)
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Post by MadeInJapan »

Jerry,
This thread is in the general section of MVS...not in the earlier than '01 section. Maybe you misread? Anyway, he's testing an '00 Volvo... the results would be the same for your car too- Yes, it is encouraging- let's hope that Don's tests are positive for the community.
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Post by Checksix »

MIJ, My point was that not all of us read the general forums, as that we specifically go to the forum tab that represents our vehicle. Since mine is an 01 V70, I go there, and if I continued to do that, I would have missed this valuable information. I was suggesting we link it in all applicable forums. Please do not take this in any negative manner, I, like a lot of people want to see this format succeed and continually improve. BTW, I really appreciate the effort you do in working these, as I have learned so much and that has saved me a LOT OF MONEY!!!!! :D

Jerry
01 V70 T5a 175K miles on 3/2016
73 P1800ES 370K miles (RIP)
73 145 about 320K mile (gone with the "X" long ago)
59 Austin Healey Bugeye 2000cc Hemi 150HP
69 F100 (original owner) This truck will RUN FOREVER! (Sold for 2008 F250 diesel in 2013)

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Post by MadeInJapan »

Jerry,
Thanks for the good feedback. Let me think on how I can get this post to appear in your forum as well. I know how to make an "announce" forum but this doesn't apply to every car in the forum.
David
'98 S70 T5 Emrld Grn Met/Beige Tons of Upgrades Mobil-1
'04 V70 2.5T Red/Taupe Some Upgrades Mobil-1
'07 S40 T5 AWD 6 speed manual! Silver/Black Stage1 Heico & Elevate
'07 S60 2.5T Blue/Taupe- my kid's Volvo

DonWillson
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Post by DonWillson »

Sorry guys and gals,
Due to personal conflicts I am about a week late in my test of the XeMODeX rebuilt ETM. I hope to make the swap on Tuesday.
Oh Darn! I might miss something earthshaking news in Washington. I hope I can catch it on reruns.
As soon as we make the test runs and drive it a little I'll post the results here and in every forum I can find.
If you have suggestions for Volvo Forums world wide e-mail them to [email protected], do not post them here.
I am especially interested in forums beyond North America. For the most part the 10-year, 200,000-mile warranty is still in effect except for the cars sold in the first half of MY 1999.
These foreign contacts are the persons that need help most as they have been paying for ETMs, if they have a local dealer. If not their car is probably up on blocks in Kenya, NZ, or some other place.
Announcing my affiliation with XeMODeX, Inc. as Internet correspondent and consultant to Volvophiles needing help with failing ETMs. See http://FixYourETM.com. For the full history of this problem see http://VEXEDvolvo.org

gshadow325
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Post by gshadow325 »

don, since my etm died a few days ago, i am a willing guinea pig, i mean test subject. :lol: please contact me if you need me.

steve
1998 Olive Green V70 T5 Manual - 155k Awesome car
2003 Nautic Blue XC90 T6 3rd tranny - 162k Modded
2001 Nautic Blue C70 T5 Manual - 92k Not stock at all

mom
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Post by mom »

Hi Don,

My car has its original ETM and as 100 000 miles and still count.
I don't know if I will benefit of a free ETM before september but I know that sooner or later it will fail.
I'm tempted by the xemodex solution but i'm a bit sceptic.

First thing, on their site they say that they will install a Digital Angle Sensor in place of film resistor but they don't show any pictures of it.

Second thing, on Ebay they say that they will rebuild your ETM;
"Complete unit will be re-assembled and permanently sealed".
Why do they do that ? What if we need to service the motor inside or any other parts?

Third thing, "Your throttle then will be bench tested to insure proper operation".How do they bench test these? I don't believe they can simulate the communication between the ECM and the ETM if the are not matched by software...

And finally, did you see Don the inside of the ETM you received?
Are you sure there is a DAS installed ?
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DonWillson
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Post by DonWillson »

The reason we ran the test is to see if it works and verify the interchangeability of the ETM between models. We have no idea what model or year car the ETM came off of before it was remanufactured.
mom wrote:Hi Don,

My car has its original ETM and as 100 000 miles and still count.
I don't know if I will benefit of a free ETM before september but I know that sooner or later it will fail.
I'm tempted by the xemodex solution but i'm a bit sceptic.

First thing, on their site they say that they will install a Digital Angle Sensor in place of film resistor but they don't show any pictures of it.
I have not seen inside.

Second thing, on Ebay they say that they will rebuild your ETM;
"Complete unit will be re-assembled and permanently sealed".
They have to open it to get to the electronics. The end opposite the motor has to be replaced with their end cap and electronics

Why do they do that ? What if we need to service the motor inside or any other parts?
I have yet to hear of a motor needing service. It only turns a total of 65 degrees, is a monster magnet supported on the throttle shaft that is supported by 2 ball bearings.

Third thing, "Your throttle then will be bench tested to insure proper operation".How do they bench test these? I don't believe they can simulate the communication between the ECM and the ETM if the are not matched by software...
I imagine if they can simulate the pots with a non contacting circuit they can figure out how to talk to the ETM

And finally, did you see Don the inside of the ETM you received?
No

Are you sure there is a DAS installed ?
They are a remanufacturer of several ABS modules and have a network of parts distributors for those parts so I have to have faith that they are truthful.
If you are still on the original you are one in thousands. You can get a unit sent to you and pay the core charge, then return your core. If you do it yourself, or have a garage do it, you will have to remove the starter to get the power/communication cable out from behind the starter. DO NOT CUT THE CABLE, THAT DESTROYS THE CORE FOR THEIR USE.
Announcing my affiliation with XeMODeX, Inc. as Internet correspondent and consultant to Volvophiles needing help with failing ETMs. See http://FixYourETM.com. For the full history of this problem see http://VEXEDvolvo.org

gshadow325
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Post by gshadow325 »

does this mean any ETM from any model will work and do not need software download?
1998 Olive Green V70 T5 Manual - 155k Awesome car
2003 Nautic Blue XC90 T6 3rd tranny - 162k Modded
2001 Nautic Blue C70 T5 Manual - 92k Not stock at all

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