1998 S90 Transmission upshift light blinking

[RCR]

Just pulled the TCM codes at a buddies shop with an older scanner they had in the back. The current Snap On Solus was indeed useless.
Codes pulled here raise more questions than they give answers.
That scanner scan number was 2F but it should cross to fault 341 as it showed lock-up function slipping.
The second code was a 1C Kickdown switch maybe crossing to 143?
No other codes were found and after a ECM and TCM clear still no cruse function so???
341 according to my Volvo trans code info sheet should not have tripped the warning light nor should the kickdown switch so I'm more confused than ever here after getting the codes.

[Jesse8931]

Trans codes will not pull from a hand held scanner on these cars..

Maybe just cheap ones can't?

2manyturbos says, If you have a proper scanner, yes, the OBDII system will give trouble codes for the transmission.

NO scanner will pull trans codes on these cars no matter how expensive unless they have the Volvo specific software loaded. Been through this once before and the Volvo software pac is over a grand for an independent shop to buy so----. My local Volvo dealer wanted $80 just to hook up and run the codes.
Normal scanners will pull the systems only mandated by the feds under OBDII to pull. Get out of that arena into some thing like trans codes and you need the full Volvo software pac that most independent shops who don't do a lot of Volvo work ( and that includes many Transmission shops BTW) simply aren't going to pay the big fees for to access the Volvo software.
Know this from experience a few years ago where I had a minor wiring issue that was a real PITA to run down because I simply could not access the code it was pulling. The repair was as simple as replacing a plug that was damaged by time and corrosion but with out a way to pull the code you were shooting in the dark. I know all this because i had a current issue with my V-90 pulling a trans code and am going through this again right now. Have a decent hand OBD II scan tool that will clear the codes but is reading absolutely nothing with a flashing up shift light mode light and Check Engine light on right now. Pull the scans and it shows no trouble codes stored in the system, go through all the live modes and check everything I can read and it's all clean. However I have dash lights staring me in the face and the cruse control resets then shuts down after you clear the codes. Your ( just like i am right now also BTW ) pretty much dead in the water until you find a way to pull those trans codes and start backtracking from the code chart.
You can find the trans trouble code chart on line and it is easy to use and think through a problem but you must find a way to get the code to start tracking things down.

Just wanna let you know thats all bs. My 150 dollar scanner pulled my trans codes on my 98 s90 with no issues.

[RCR]

Just wanna let you know thats all bs. My 150 dollar scanner pulled my trans codes on my 98 s90 with no issues.

Funny as h#$# that the 3 independent shops $4K scanners I was in today could not pull them but you can with a $150 scanner. You don't know what you are talking about bud. Been through this twice with this car over the 7 years i have owned it and had the same issue both times getting the codes. First round I had a friend at a Volvo specialty shop pull the code because 3 different transmissions shops could not nor could any of the local independents. The big Snap on today at the shop I finally got them wouldn't read Volvo trans codes on anything under a 2000. Lucky for us they had an old backup scanner with some older software they dug out that would. if you have a $150 scanner that will pull trans codes on a 98 Volvo the big $3500 Snap on scanner won't get I want to know what it is cause I want to buy one!

[Jesse8931]

Funny how you're the only one who can't get his codes read.

[93Regina]

Funny as h#$# that the 3 independent shops $4K scanners I was in today could not pull them

Submitted: 4 years ago

Expert: Enes replied 4 years ago.
you will need to get me the fault codes and i will tell you what to replace you need to have access or find obd 2 scanner arrow light flsing is trans fault code


Customer: replied 4 years ago.

Sorry for delay. I live in remote area and had to order an OBD II.

Only one error code, generic: P0705
Transmission range sensor input (PRNDL input)

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[RCR]

Expert: Enes replied 4 years ago.
you will need to get me the fault codes and i will tell you what to replace you need to have access or find obd 2 scanner arrow light flsing is trans fault code


Customer: replied 4 years ago.

Sorry for delay. I live in remote area and had to order an OBD II.

Only one error code, generic: P0705
Transmission range sensor input (PRNDL input)

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And I'm telling you been through this hell getting the trans codes TWICE in the 7 years I have owned my 1998 V-90. Exactly the same issues both times in that my OB2 scanner will not pull them nor would 3 scanners at 3 different local transmission shops and 2 independent garages. Both times I had the flashing up arrow flashing mode lights and a check engine light. Both times all scans show no codes and I could clear the ECM codes but not the TCM codes nor read them.
This last time I finally found a local independent that had an older backup scanner with the Volvo software pack we were able to use to get them.
You can try to tell me a regular OB2 will pull Volvo trans codes till eternity but that won't change the fact that twice when I had trans codes on my 1998 V-90 the absolute ONLY way to get the codes out was to find a scanner with the old Volvo 1997-1999 full soft ware.
It's a maddening PITA but it is what it is and telling folk that a regular scanner will pull trans codes on ALL these cars is simply not true they won't. Wish they would as it would have saved me a LOT of time and frustration but they just won't.

[93Regina]

Wish they would...

Try various auto supply stores...free check

[Jesse8931]

I find this very funny that rcr is the only guy who can not get the codes read.

I have owned two s90's and a friend of mine had 4 all 6 car's had no issues with pulling codes.

[RCR]

I find this very funny that rcr is the only guy who can not get the codes read.

I have owned two s90's and a friend of mine had 4 all 6 car's had no issues with pulling codes.

Buddy I have worked with this car for the last 7 years and wish you were close to me as I would lay a substantial bet on you that you will not pull these transmission codes on this car with a regular OBD II scanner. In fact the reason why is spelled out in the Auto trans Diagnosis sheet from Volvo I have that clearly states this on the the bottom of the component activation codes page>

OBD II DTC's are emission related codes

In layman terms you can only pull a code through the normal OBD II system that is some how an "emission-related code" and that is from a Volvo service bulletin. That is exactly what I am running into as whatever is pulling in the TCM is out of the "emission-related code" realm and will not read by OBD II.
Oh how I wish it would as trust me it's maddening to have to find a scanner some where with the right 1997-1999 Volvo software installed to read these codes.
Went trough this several years back on a connector that had corroded internally that was located on the left side of the bell-housing. It read line pressure and turbine speed would set the flashing up arrow and mode lights then read no fault on the OBD II scan. You could clear the codes with the OBD II scanner in the ECM but not the TCM nor could you read the faults. I finally got the right scan tool that had the 197-99 software pulled the codes then backtracked the circuit and found the problem.
You absolutely can not pull a trans code that is not an emission related code under the fed guidelines set for OBD-II data with a normal scan tool on these 1997-1999 OBD II cars period end of discussion. What really has you pulling your hair out though when you run into this is if it was pre OBD II and had a blink reader you can pull the codes without any problem.

[RCR]

Wish they would...

Try various auto supply stores...free check

No dice they won't pull up it always shows no code stored with both the flashing up arrow and the check Engine light on and staring you in the face. My personal OB-II scanner is a higher quality tool than most auto parts stores would use anyway.
What makes you want to scream however is if the car was pre OBD II you could just pull the trans codes using the blink reader with no problem but since the issue I have is not "Emissions Control " related it can't be read with a normal OBD II ( need little bangie head on brick wall smiley dude to insert here!!).
Consider yourself fortunate if you have never run into one of these issues on these cars (or any car for that matter built after the feds mandated the OBD system in 97) as it's maddening.