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98 850 Wagon - probably scrapping? EDIT: it runs?

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Re: 98 850 Wagon - probably scrapping?

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tryingbe wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 21:16
ir637113 wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 13:22
tryingbe wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 12:41 The engine is toasted. I bet a rod broke.
Wouldnt that have made a noise or something? I've never had that happen so idk, but I would think you could hear it.

Well, what's the compression test numbers?
No clue. I don't believe I have the equipment to even find that out for you. The only things i can say are that it still cranks, and I have gotten it to start twice for about five or six seconds before it shuts back off

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What did your temp gauge read when the motor was losing power? What is the condition of the big PCV hose on top of your motor?
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If you don't have the tools or the knowledge to fix a Volvo. Time to buy another brand.
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Post by abscate »

It’s worth checking compression to,make sure you aren’t scrapping a decent ride. There are good used engines out there for $500, too

Not a hard swap especially since Spring is coming
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tryingbe wrote: 27 Feb 2018, 06:02 If you don't have the tools or the knowledge to fix a Volvo. Time to buy another brand.
I'm gonna change what i said because it came off rude and I didn't mean it to. I absolutely believe if you don't have the tools or skills to work on a car (or are unwilling to buy the tools or learn), take it to a mechanic. However, here's why that's a little different here:
>I've only been working on my Volvos for 2 or 3 years, and have only had the finances (went from broke college student to broke grad student to broke parent of 2 over the five or six years I've owned Volvos) to fix what broke when it broke - preventive maintenance (other than plugs, wires, oil, etc.) is a foreign concept to me.
>I've only owned two Volvos in that time
>As, such, my knowledge is limited compared to a lot of guys on here. You gotta start somewhere, right?
> as I'm only working in it when it absolutely needs it, I only buy tools when I absolutely need them. Therefore I don't have the tools to do a compression test.

That being said, I'm absolutely willing to work on it. I may not be able to do it all in one shot, but I don't need to anymore - bought a car that's much more reliable (seriously, it's only run 3-4 of the last 8 months), so this can be a project car.

Nevertheless, the car starts, shifts, and drives currently. So based on my knowledge of what happens when you throw a rod, it's probably not that
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abscate wrote: 27 Feb 2018, 07:55 It’s worth checking compression to,make sure you aren’t scrapping a decent ride. There are good used engines out there for $500, too

Not a hard swap especially since Spring is coming
That'll probably happen. This is probably going to turn into a project vehicle. I'll spend some time and a few bucks working on figuring out if it's worth fixing, and either fix it or dump it.

As an added update, I recharged the battery (that thing is due, but I'm not dropping $150 on a new one until I'm sure it's worth it) and the thing started, shifted, and drove. It sounds like hell - loud ass ticking noise coming from roughly the top middle of the engine. My thought is lifters because that's pretty common apparently, it's just kind of weird that all of this would've happened and that's all that's wrong.

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I should rephrase. I ain't swapping. Lol. I just plain don't have the time, money, or equipment to do an engine swap. But I'll test the compressions and whatnot. Rework the PCV again, and see if I can deal with the ticking noise. If I can, I'll have to decide if I'm keeping it or dumping it. If I can't, I can at least say it runs when I dump it.

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So as a rehash
> Redid PCV a couple weeks back, must've missed some gunk in the ports because it's still been spitting oil out of the oil cap or dipstick, so I already know I need to redo that
> Driving it hard (okay, I abused it for a moment or two lol) and it dump all the oil in it out of the oil cap, then stalled
> Restarted two days later after I recharged the battery (I'm gonna wait until I get more out - I had just run out and was planning on scrapping so I didn't purchase more yet), shifted, and drove at least enough to get it out of my garage (I don't have a lot of oil in it so I didn't want to take it anywhere)
> Loud ticking noise from the engine. Not like the standard valve tick. Loud af.

I'm gonna add more oil then see what happens. I've read sometimes the Lucas oil additive works wonders.

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Post by rguzz »

Borrow a compression tester NOW as suggested, check out a few of RSPI videos on Youtube, and see what you have BEFORE you do anything more. Otherwise, you will be tossing good money and lots of time, after bad. What I learned early on working on these cars is to eliminate worst case possibilities first so you can make your best decisions after that. If compression is crap, sounds like with your time and financial limitations you can be done...or not, if you want a bigger project! At least you'll know. Report all findings here!

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rguzz wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 17:25 Borrow a compression tester NOW as suggested, check out a few of RSPI videos on Youtube, and see what you have BEFORE you do anything more. Otherwise, you will be tossing good money and lots of time, after bad. What I learned early on working on these cars is to eliminate worst case possibilities first so you can make your best decisions after that. If compression is crap, sounds like with your time and financial limitations you can be done...or not, if you want a bigger project! At least you'll know. Report all findings here!
Sounds like a plan! I'll see if I know someone that has one or if it can be rented or something. Once I get a Chance to work on it, I'll let you.guys know what I find

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