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Adjust Battery Charging Voltage With ECU

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Re: Adjust Battery Charging Voltage With ECU

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MrAl wrote: 18 Jan 2022, 18:48 The flooded wet cell lead acid battery idea sounds interesting im not sure how to tell the difference though when you go to buy a new battery. Normally i just look for a battery that is specified for this car.
I doubt many cars specify an AGM battery. If you just go to a battery retailer, an AGM battery will likely advertise that it's an AGM battery since it's typically a fancy schamncy upgrade. It will also be significantly more expensive compared to a lead acid battery of the same Group size.

I know you don't have Menard's, but here is an example... two batteries of the same Group Size, one is AGM and one is the typical lead acid.... the AGM says AGM right on it, and is much more expensive.

https://www.menards.com/main/tools/auto ... 776&ipos=1

https://www.menards.com/main/tools/auto ... 776&ipos=2
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454cid wrote: 18 Jan 2022, 19:00
MrAl wrote: 18 Jan 2022, 18:48 The flooded wet cell lead acid battery idea sounds interesting im not sure how to tell the difference though when you go to buy a new battery. Normally i just look for a battery that is specified for this car.
I doubt many cars specify an AGM battery. If you just go to a battery retailer, an AGM battery will likely advertise that it's an AGM battery since it's typically a fancy schamncy upgrade. It will also be significantly more expensive compared to a lead acid battery of the same Group size.

I know you don't have Menard's, but here is an example... two batteries of the same Group Size, one is AGM and one is the typical lead acid.... the AGM says AGM right on it, and is much more expensive.

https://www.menards.com/main/tools/auto ... 776&ipos=1

https://www.menards.com/main/tools/auto ... 776&ipos=2
Hello again,

Thanks for the info i couldnt find the price on that second battery in the link but i get the general idea and i looked up my battery.
It looks like it actually is a flooded cell type not an AGM but i will verify that when i go out there again.
Going by the pictures i found on the web, my battery top looks exacly like the picture of the one they say is their best non AGM battery and the shape of the top is the same too. Since i did not take a picture of the very front of the battery i can not see the actual part number yet, but i am pretty sure it is the one i found that they specify as non AGM.
So maybe i got the best battery i can get for that car.

What puzzels me yet though is why would the battery manufacturer (Interstate Battery) specify several non AGM batteries for this car and also specify at least one AGM battery (an actual AGM battery) for this car, any ideas? I would think they would know about the slight but significant differences. The difference in price is as you suggested, about $200 USD vs $300 USD for AGM. i did not pay near $300 so it cant be the AGM i would think and the pictures are different too.
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
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MrAl wrote: 19 Jan 2022, 04:15 Thanks for the info i couldnt find the price on that second battery in the link but i get the general idea and i looked up my battery.
That's weird. It shows up at $189 for the AGM and $114 the regular battery, for me. Maybe it's because I have the local store selected.
What puzzels me yet though is why would the battery manufacturer (Interstate Battery) specify several non AGM batteries for this car and also specify at least one AGM battery (an actual AGM battery) for this car, any ideas?
The AGM is just a more expensive option, using newer technology, and priced at a premium. When I said not many cars specify an AGM battery, I was meaning specifications by the automaker. The battery companies want to sell their higher priced products, so if they have a more expensive product that will fit, they'll list it in the catalog for the car.

I have not used an AGM battery yet. I usually buy Walmart's upper line lead-acid batteries for my vehicles, and have good success with them. They're aren't very many battery makers, just a lot of brands. Last I knew Walmart's batteries were made by Johnson Controls.
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MrAl wrote: 19 Jan 2022, 04:15 What puzzels me yet though is why would the battery manufacturer (Interstate Battery) specify several non AGM batteries for this car and also specify at least one AGM battery (an actual AGM battery) for this car, any ideas? I would think they would know about the slight but significant differences. The difference in price is as you suggested, about $200 USD vs $300 USD for AGM. i did not pay near $300 so it cant be the AGM i would think and the pictures are different too.
Manufacturers tend to just list a size and the distributors or dealers have a database that has the car battery size. They usually only check to see if the battery size matches what is listed for the car. This is done in a lot of sectors because of cost and the ICBB or the " I cant be bothered" attitude of certain larger chains and online webstores to look into the specifics.
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454cid wrote: 19 Jan 2022, 07:58
MrAl wrote: 19 Jan 2022, 04:15 Thanks for the info i couldnt find the price on that second battery in the link but i get the general idea and i looked up my battery.
That's weird. It shows up at $189 for the AGM and $114 the regular battery, for me. Maybe it's because I have the local store selected.
What puzzels me yet though is why would the battery manufacturer (Interstate Battery) specify several non AGM batteries for this car and also specify at least one AGM battery (an actual AGM battery) for this car, any ideas?
The AGM is just a more expensive option, using newer technology, and priced at a premium. When I said not many cars specify an AGM battery, I was meaning specifications by the automaker. The battery companies want to sell their higher priced products, so if they have a more expensive product that will fit, they'll list it in the catalog for the car.

I have not used an AGM battery yet. I usually buy Walmart's upper line lead-acid batteries for my vehicles, and have good success with them. They're aren't very many battery makers, just a lot of brands. Last I knew Walmart's batteries were made by Johnson Controls.
Hello again,

Oh ok that makes sense.

I veriified that i do in fact have the non AGM battery. It is written on the top which i had pictures of already but the writing ws in bright yellow on a white background so the camera did not pick it up that well so it was very hard to read. Now that i have a better picture i can see it is the right one.
My battery was actually listed as $175 USD while the AGM wsa listed as $299 that's quite a difference.

So i have the best Interstate battery for this particular car. Now just hope it charges well each time :-)
Everyone says Interstate batteries are very good batteries so i hope that is true. My last battery was actuallly the very same make and model battery and it did last the proclaimed warrenty period and would have probably went longer if i did not have that sensor problem that made the car incredibly hard to start.
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.

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