I got a 1997 850 R today
- abscate
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He is just after them for his trailer...
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A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
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- erikv11
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Nice car, Matt and gmh!
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
- volvolugnut
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I had noticed this half of salary car price relationship in the 70's and 80's. At that time I wondered how anyone justified buying a new car. Then there was a public comment by the CEO of Ford about 1990 - he did not care if most people could not afford his new cars.abscate wrote: 09 Dec 2025, 14:56 I think average car pricing has stayed pretty close to about 1/2 household income from 1990-2025.
Worth checking
You are getting a lot more technology now in 2025, without question
gmh - reached out to you on email!![]()
volvolugnut
The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
John Deere 214 lawn tractor about 1977 model
And others.
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
John Deere 214 lawn tractor about 1977 model
And others.
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The car companies figured out how to rent them to people instead. Im amazed at the number of people who own their homes, and lease their cars - invariably cars they shouldnt be leasing.volvolugnut wrote: 10 Dec 2025, 18:19I had noticed this half of salary car price relationship in the 70's and 80's. At that time I wondered how anyone justified buying a new car. Then there was a public comment by the CEO of Ford about 1990 - he did not care if most people could not afford his new cars.abscate wrote: 09 Dec 2025, 14:56 I think average car pricing has stayed pretty close to about 1/2 household income from 1990-2025.
Worth checking
You are getting a lot more technology now in 2025, without question
gmh - reached out to you on email!![]()
volvolugnut
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- matthew1
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What about all the "Leasing Makes Sense In Some Cases" stories? I don't recall ever reading one to find out why it makes sense in some cases.
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1998 V70, no dash lights on
1997 850 T5 [gone] w/ MSD ignition coil, Hallman manual boost controller, injectors, R bumper, OMP strut brace
2004 V70 R [gone]
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1998 V70, no dash lights on
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2004 V70 R [gone]
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THose are written by banks.... 
If you want to drive a late model car no more than 2-3 years old then a lease 'makes sense' but thats such a poor financial choice its like choosing between cyanide and hemlock for your soup.
If you want to drive a late model car no more than 2-3 years old then a lease 'makes sense' but thats such a poor financial choice its like choosing between cyanide and hemlock for your soup.
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More photos. I haven't dug into anything yet. I re-arranged a fair bit of my garage today. First things first.
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1998 V70, no dash lights on
1997 850 T5 [gone] w/ MSD ignition coil, Hallman manual boost controller, injectors, R bumper, OMP strut brace
2004 V70 R [gone]
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1998 V70, no dash lights on
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2004 V70 R [gone]
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454cid
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I love the wood around that dash!
1996 850
1999 S70 GLT (sold after deer hit)
2010 Ford Focus SE
2006 Cadillac CTS
1996 Mercedes C220
1999 Chevrolet K3500
1969 Buick LeSabre Custom 400
1999 S70 GLT (sold after deer hit)
2010 Ford Focus SE
2006 Cadillac CTS
1996 Mercedes C220
1999 Chevrolet K3500
1969 Buick LeSabre Custom 400
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Me too! Unfortunately the dash pad has the dreaded buckle. Overall the car looks very nice though besides the usual signs of usage. Nice Vredestein tires too.
98' S70, base, 5-speed manual, pewter/ tan, 148k miles
06' V70, auto, willow green/ charcoal, 161k miles
79' Ford Capri S, Euro Spec 2.8 V6, T9 5-speed manual, owned since 1986
58' Porsche Diesel Junior
13' Honda Odyssey
84' Mercedes 300 D, gold/ tan, 420k miles (retirement project
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06' V70, auto, willow green/ charcoal, 161k miles
79' Ford Capri S, Euro Spec 2.8 V6, T9 5-speed manual, owned since 1986
58' Porsche Diesel Junior
13' Honda Odyssey
84' Mercedes 300 D, gold/ tan, 420k miles (retirement project
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Is that one of the original OBD scan usb tools from that guy in Texas? Dan something?
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