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Timing belt weekend: '99 S70 non-turbo. Part 2.

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Re: Timing belt weekend: '99 S70 non-turbo. Part 2.

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RussB wrote:
erikv11 wrote: There is just no reason to take off the crank pulley
if you're in there for a timing belt.
Truer words have never been spoken

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Post by Brucebo »

RussB wrote:
erikv11 wrote: There is just no reason to take off the crank pulley
if you're in there for a timing belt.
Truer words have never been spoken
You think so huh? Take a look at this picture from my 1999 S70 non-turbo. See that hard gas line right at the bottom of the pulley. Ain't no way that belt is coming off without either removing the pulley or the gas line. The pulley is easier.

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I replaced the timing belt on my '98 V70 and did it without messing with the crank pulley. I recall that there was some obstruction that had to be maneuvered around and it gave me some trouble and elicited some colorful words. But once I figured out that it had to be approached at a certain angle, it came right off. The replacement went on quite easily. YMMV.

I've replaced the crank pulley on a Saab and it required a breaker bar and a 4 ft. piece of gas pipe. I broke the craftsman breaker bar in the first attempt and had to replace it. It worked the second time. Removing a crank pulley is way too much work and is to be avoided if at all possible.
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Here is an excerpt from my 2008 post describing my timing belt replacement:

"The step that gave me the most heartburn was getting the old belt from behind the crank pulley. I wrestled with that belt for the longest time with absolutely no progress and became quite discouraged. I finally used one of those small dental mirrors to take a peek at what was going on behind the crank pulley. The gap between the pin and the crank pulley is quite wide enough for the belt to pass through. But it is quite easy for the belt to hang up on the crank pulley especially if twisted. The orientation of the belt is most important. It is essential that the right side of the belt be addressed first with the left side remaining in its place. Earlier in my enthusiasm, I had pulled the left side out from the plastic housing before handling the right side. This was a mistake and it rendered the belt impossible to remove. So I put the left side back and proceeded with the right side. Armed with this new information, it took me about 3 minutes to work the belt into the gap and then extract the left side from the plastic housing. I put the new belt on in reverse order, doing the left side first, followed by the right side. To my surprise it slipped through the gap almost effortlessly with no persuasion required. "
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Brucebo wrote:
RussB wrote:
erikv11 wrote: There is just no reason to take off the crank pulley
if you're in there for a timing belt.
Truer words have never been spoken
You think so huh? Take a look at this picture from my 1999 S70 non-turbo. See that hard gas line right at the bottom of the pulley. Ain't no way that belt is coming off without either removing the pulley or the gas line. The pulley is easier.

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... &mode=view


I cut off the old belt, and carefully finagle the new belt up and into place. I've done a few of these.
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Post by theWIFES_S70 »

OK, just finished up a timing belt a few hours ago. Yes, the belt can be fanagled up into place. It's not easy as there is a piece of the engine and the plastic back cover than get in the way, but there is just enough space to get it up in there without taking off that pulley. (I didn't have any fuel lines there, though...)

I ran out of light and had very little battery left on my camera so couldn't really take a video of it, here's what I did... A little twisting, pulling from the top, pushing from the bottom.
s70_crankshaft_pulley.jpg
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Post by RussB »

Nice picture of the mystery nub, the bane of many a timing belt replacement
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It was quite a mystery nub indeed! :D
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Post by Brucebo »

I notice you car doesn't have the hard gas line right at the bottom of the pulley.

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Post by erikv11 »

Brucebo wrote:
RussB wrote:
erikv11 wrote: There is just no reason to take off the crank pulley
if you're in there for a timing belt.
Truer words have never been spoken
You think so huh? Take a look at this picture from my 1999 S70 non-turbo. See that hard gas line right at the bottom of the pulley. Ain't no way that belt is coming off without either removing the pulley or the gas line. The pulley is easier.

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... &mode=view
In this picture the belt is hung up on the nub, not on the pulley. Is there truly no room between the pulley and the gas line? I have never worked on a P80 with the hard gas line there but since this is the first time I have ever heard of it, I suspect it is not on the way.
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