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VIDA DICE, which one to buy?

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MattHenning
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Re: VIDA DICE, which one to buy?

Post by MattHenning »

I agree with Emil, don't give up. This is an extremely useful tool.

Have you connected the DiCE to your car's OBDII port? If so, what did the lights on the DiCE do?

Sounds like a driver for the DiCE did not install properly.

A subscription is not required for most of the functions of VIDA. You will not be able to download software updates (for the transmission, ETM, and so forth). I believe the purpose of the patch is to allow the rest of VIDA to function without a subscription.

Try connecting the DiCE to the computer while VIDA is running.

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I haven't given up by any means. I'm in the middle of finals right now so time to mess with this is limited. I have found a lot of stuff that doesn't work for an XP option. I'm somewhere in the range of plan E or F right now. So, why don't I list them.

Plan A: Run on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit - VIDA 2012D runs but unable to get computer to recognize DICE.
Plan B: Run XP in Hyper-V on Windows 8 Pro 64-bit - VIDA 2012A installed and working but Hyper-V does not support USB so DICE obviously not working. There is a theoretical workaround of buying a network enabled USB hub but I'm not going there.
Plan C: Run XP on Windows 8 Pro 64-bit with VMware: Installer errors out halfway through installation. That can be fixed but looks like too much of a pain to deal with at the moment. Not sure if the problem is caused by having Hyper-V running before.
Plan D: Run Windows 7 Pro 64-bit in XP mode (free virtual machine and XP from Microsoft) - Didn't take the time to install VIDA, just several different versions of the DICE drivers. Theoretically any USB device can be passed through to the XP environment, but I'm wondering if that is not working at the moment because the DICE is showing up as not installed and functioning correctly. My theory in not installing the VIDA here is that if the DICE Diagnostics cannot communicate with the unit VIDA won't get anywhere either.
Plan E: Next thing to try is creating a bootable XP USB HHD. Since I will be booting from it, it will have native control of the USB hubs so hopefully we many get somewhere.
Plan F: If E doesn't work I'll wipe the Windows 7 machine and install XP, but I hope we don't get to this.

If you are referring to the DICE firmware, you do not have to have a subscription to update that. From what I understand you cannot do it from a virtual machine XP. Sometimes the older firmware on these clone DICE don't play nice with a newer VIDA and you either have to upgrade firmware or downgrade VIDA.

I have plugged the DICE into the car and it does the same thing as when I plug it into the USB port. The firmware and vehicle interface lights are solid and the USB light blinks a couple of times before going out. One question on the light though. Should the vehicle light be lit if it is not plugged into a vehicle? Mine is. All the LEDs are blue and I'm not sure if they're capable of any other color.

I have an extension on marking the shipment as received and releasing the funds. So, I have about 2 weeks to get some form of XP going to prove if this thing is working or not. The shipper will only accept an XP screen shot as proof of being broken.
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Post by precopster »

Some of the info on this site may be helpful:
https://www.volvotechinfo.com/
They used to have the Dice USB driver on the homepage but it's no longer there. Have a look around it still may be lurking somewhere.

The Dice tool install procedure here as well: https://www.volvotechinfo.com/siteConte ... ctions.pdf

Also try this testing procedure for the Dice unit: https://www.volvotechinfo.com/siteConte ... ticApp.pdf
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Post by mouseskowitz »

Thanks Mike, I'll have to look at that stuff, hopefully tomorrow.
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Post by precopster »

I found the Dice USB driver for Dice firmware V5.6 but the site won't upload it probably because it's an executable file even if I zip it. I have a membership to a cloud site so I'll see if I can link you to it later tonight.
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Post by mouseskowitz »

If it's the dicefw561 off the Volvo site I already have it. I also have the versions that come with 2012A and 2012D.
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Post by precopster »

That's the one. It's 14.6 MB
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Post by MattHenning »

On my working DiCE, the vehicle interface light only comes on when VIDA is accessing information from the car. It does not come on at all when only connected to the car. (except sometimes a slight flicker when the car is started) Sounds like your DiCE might be defective.

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That's kind of my thought since it's on all the time.
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Post by mouseskowitz »

Installing a fully functioning copy of XP on a USB HHD does not seem to be an option. There is a way to have limited functionality in that way but running VIDA/DICE doesn't seem to be viable. Next plan is to try to set up a dual boot.
2002 V70 2.4T ~202k miles
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