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Re: 2001 V70XC - Random stall when coming to a stop ETM 36050563

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Working my way through solving the two Accelerator Pedal related DTCs. Four readouts of all ETM parameter before removing accelerator pedal this weekend.

Engine OFF, Key POS II:
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Engine idling close to 1000 RPM:
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Engine idling and settles near 700 RPM:
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Few minutes later engine cuts off by itself:
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When the ETM on my '01 V70 was dying, it threw a few accelerator pedal-related codes. After having the ETM rebuilt, the accelerator pedal codes went away, so I'm fairly certain nothing was wrong with the pedal or pedal sensor in my case. I think it was just one way the ETM tried to interpret the data it was seeing.

I also frequently saw the absolute throttle position at 20% when the car was in limp mode.
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Post by abscate »

That should be documented here , somewhere...


What is the throttle plate position for limp mode?

Jimmy might know this.
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abscate wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 02:21 That should be documented here , somewhere...


What is the throttle plate position for limp mode?

Jimmy might know this.
Found this viewtopic.php?t=87043
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Hmmm


Turbo limp throttle angle 20%

Non Turbo limp throttle angle 16%

Nominal numbers
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abscate wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 11:10 Hmmm


Turbo limp throttle angle 20%

Non Turbo limp throttle angle 16%

Nominal numbers
Found this: https://xemodex.com/us/pdf/ETM%20Flow%2 ... -final.pdf
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prwood wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 20:45 When the ETM on my '01 V70 was dying, it threw a few accelerator pedal-related codes. After having the ETM rebuilt, the accelerator pedal codes went away, so I'm fairly certain nothing was wrong with the pedal or pedal sensor in my case. I think it was just one way the ETM tried to interpret the data it was seeing.

I also frequently saw the absolute throttle position at 20% when the car was in limp mode.
IF Limp Home is a "SAFETY" feature THEN something is triggering ECM-9180: Accelerator Pedal Fault -- limiting power to gas pedal.

VIDA's ETM test procedure says something like "a 13º (%) angle difference requires replacing throttle module". I'll try ETM test tonight.
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Is that difference between requested and actual?

This might Be the best diagnostic for detecting limp mode we have found yet

Xheart, can you add the ECM CODES and P codes to this thread? I can map the P codes if you have the ECM
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abscate wrote: 20 Feb 2019, 05:15 Is that difference between requested and actual?

This might Be the best diagnostic for detecting limp mode we have found yet

Xheart, can you add the ECM CODES and P codes to this thread? I can map the P codes if you have the ECM
I will.
Someone like precopster is more familiar with "difference".
Mike Lucas aka precopster video [youtube][/youtube]
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Post by abscate »

Its sounds like difference between the measured film sensors that is allowed?

Mike has a Kingfisher stuck in his throttle body.

:-)

Added ETM part number to thread for bookmarking the great video on ETM
Also referenced it in ETM Room
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