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Re: Seems NGK IX Iridium Spark Plugs Caused CEM Codes Limp Mode

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The shop I work at has used those plugs on all turbo Volvos that they fit with for over 10 years without issue. There may have been a single bad plug here or there, but they are good plugs and work on P2 Volvos(excluding P2R models that have the longer threads).

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Post by cn90 »

1+,

Actually the cause in this thread was NOT Iridium spark plug issues. The root cause for this problem was updated in another thread!

So YES, NGK Iridium is safe to use. I use it.
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Post by erikv11 »

What was the root cause, or can someone point to the thread?
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Post by dono »

cn90 wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 10:55 1+,

Actually the cause in this thread was NOT Iridium spark plug issues. The root cause for this problem was updated in another thread!

So YES, NGK Iridium is safe to use. I use it.
OP here - I can tell you that the plugs in my case were a contributing factor - I changed them out for Bosch and the problem went away. I suspect the primary cause is that my CEM is old and probably has issues that dont allow it to tolerate something about the NGKs. This appears to be specific to my vehicle as others have reported long term use of the NGK Iridium spark plugs. Id be curious to see which thread the 'root cause' for this was 'updated'
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Post by precopster »

I've been using NGK BKR6E on all our turbo Volvos for about 6 years. Also fitted them to a 1998 V70R and everything Volvo turbo up to 2006 with no issues.

I always check gaps, no problems except where I fitted a set to a non turbo 1999 V70 (had nothing else on hand) which is supposed to have triple electrode plugs. The single electrode plugs wore out and had very large gaps within 20,000kms causing misfires.

Haven't tried iridiums or platinums as yet, though NGK's Aussie web site calls for platinums where the USA site lists standards and platinums....interesting.
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Post by jimmy57 »

Surface gap plugs and the older Bosch with the teeny weenie platinum wire electrode are the only plugs I have seen these engines not like when they are at correct gap. They don't like Volvo correct for application plugs if someone gaps them wider. The CEM doesn't give a hoot about plugs but if you have suppression issues caused by plugs of any brand or type and if the coils have an issue where internal arc on primary from too high secondary voltage then a lot of things in electrical system can have issues randomly.

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Post by abscate »

He tried it and reports back....

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Post by dono »

I should note a recent dying battery caused some pretty wacky ECM, 'start prevented' codes that disappeared when I replaced the battery.
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