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June
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Re: I miss the blue!

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I have to say this is the strangest thread yet! Who cares about what color the coolant is! It's under the hood and can not be seen normally while driving. Should the real concern be how the coolant protects the system from corrosion, water pump, and boiling/freezing? It seems the concern is let's find something blue! Even if it potentially doesn't protect the system as well... All this silliness aside, does anyone have factual information about the old Volvo blue coolant vs. The new greenish other than the obvious color change? June
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What we’re discussing here has nothing to do with facts and figures. We’re talking about a completely subjective aesthetic experience of the sight which greets you when you open the hood, which some of us do a lot.

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We can’t see our wheels when we drive , which is astonishing amidst all of the wheel threads ? That, and people who buy brake components based on dust levels

I buy brakes to stop quickly
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abscate wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 07:45 We can’t see our wheels when we drive , which is astonishing amidst all of the wheel threads ? That, and people who buy brake components based on dust levels

I buy brakes to stop quickly
If you’d like to debate brake pads I’ll be happy to take the other side and argue that Akebono pads allow you to have your cake and eat it too (clean wheels and quick stopping) in another thread. The purpose of this thread is to discuss the appearance of coolant.

At this point the enthusiasm for bright blue is dwarfing that for “emerald green”. Although If bright blue ceases to be an option I would choose emerald green over the straw yellow of G05 or the iridescent chartreuse of old fashioned Prestone/Peak.

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850oldschool wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 07:34 What we’re discussing here has nothing to do with facts and figures. We’re talking about a completely subjective aesthetic experience of the sight which greets you when you open the hood, which some of us do a lot.
I would like to know the facts and figures!!! What is different from the new greenish from the old blue? Why did Volvo change the formula??? Put the wrong type in and potentially damage the cooling system. My dealer quit carrying the blue by early 2016 when I had my first timing belt with water pump installed at 109K 3/2016. Now at 203K my cooling system is still clean operating properly. So the greenish seems to protect like the blue did.?. Would that be the case if some aftermarket coolant was used; who knows! June
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abscate wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 07:45 We can’t see our wheels when we drive , which is astonishing amidst all of the wheel threads ? That, and people who buy brake components based on dust levels

I buy brakes to stop quickly
Sometimes I see my wheels fly off during rollover maneuvers!!!... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: or the occasional reflection of the car say in a store window :wink: June
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Post by scot850 »

I have not seen any write up on the change. It was the service manager at the dealer that told me the reason for the change.

And yes the Toyota coolant is a reddish color.

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Two not so relevant points to add to this coolant silliness:
1. Volvo owners spends LOTS of time with the hood up admiring their coolant.
2. Personally I like gold colored coolant - Xerox G-05
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volvolugnut wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 11:54 Two not so relevant points to add to this coolant silliness:
1. Volvo owners spends LOTS of time with the hood up admiring their coolant.
2. Personally I like gold colored coolant - Xerox G-05
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Actually I use Zerex G-05 in all my P80 Volvos. Which is most of the fleet. Love the gold!

The Volvo coolant is for the S60 R, it had Volvo in it when I got it and I decided to keep it that way.
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Post by June »

scot850 wrote: 30 Aug 2020, 11:24 I have not seen any write up on the change. It was the service manager at the dealer that told me the reason for the change.

And yes the Toyota coolant is a reddish color.

Neil.
I assume you guys are right about Toyota coolant. When the 99 Celica had a bad water pump it dumped orangish looking coolant all over my parents garage floor. I asked her advisor if it was DEX-COOL and he said no that I could mix standard green in if it ever was necessary. He never mentioned what color it was. On the white cement floor it looked orangish. It does not have a visible tank like Volvo. Also I never would or have owned a Toyota. Toyota replaced the engine once about 10 years ago and it is about ready for another. It has been maliciously serviced by her Toyota dealer.

The car now rests in my garage so I plan on looking for my own peace of mind. The radiator exploded last year so the coolant is not very old. It's definitely not been a trouble free car as Scotty would tell you. June

Went out and looked and it is reddish. The coolant does not last like Volvo coolant does from what I have seen. Notice the crud from the exploded radiator still on the engine. Here are some pictures I snapped. Mother is 86 with alzheimers now so I had to take the car away and now it sits in my garage...
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My Volvo cars owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned

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