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Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
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1997 - 2000 V70-XC
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Re: USE OEM ONLY for these:

Post by kcodyjr »

cn90 wrote:If you rebuild (overhaul) the entire braking system, stick to ATE and FTE brands only!
Referring to the hydraulic components only, I trust. I haven't done calipers, honestly, I'd just get rebuilt OEM from Erie if I did.

I'm absolutely loving the road feel of the Zimmerman cross drilled coated rotors and Akebono ceramic pads from FCP. These are not the same ones as on the website, I called them up and they special-ordered. I've had them on the front for about 1K miles, so, ask me in a year what I still think of them.

To summarize about rotors:

* Any rotor will warp if you don't stop correctly. Always let the car creep forward every few seconds so they cool evenly.

* You can't go wrong with a high quality solid rotor such as OEM or Zimmerman. My indy says he thinks the OE are Zim's.

* Brembo used to be the best but are now made in China. Avoid. Raybestos used to be decent and also now suck, I'm told.

* Cross-drilling and slotting both decrease the total heat capacity of the rotor, but improve its ability to shed heat. Making use of this without premature failure requires paying attention to how much heat you're dumping into them.

* Cross-drilling is not advised for racing use due to tendency to crack when overheated; slotting is questionable for street use due to increased pad wear, dust generation, and loud cop-magnet whirring sound. That said, either will improve stopping ability when wet. I've noticed no noises from the cross-drilled set.

* Cross-drilling is often done by underpaid kids with a drill press in Daddy's garage. If you're going to go this route, only get name-brand rotors from a reputable vendor such as FCP.

* Cross-drilling used to be needed to deal with outgassing from the resins in the pad, despite the tendency to crack. This no longer applies, because better pad materials are used than in the 1960's. The only real reason now is wet weather.

* Coating serves to prevent rust on the non-stopping surfaces. This is 2 parts appearance and 1 part longevity.

To summarize about pads:

* OE's are dusty as hell as are any other organic pad. Anything else except the latest ceramics such as Akebono will squeak like the dickens on the front. I've had reasonable results with PBR Deluxe on the rear, which I believe are semi-metallics.

* If you're using OE rotors, don't use a full metallic racing pad, or you'll kill your rotors. If you're using uprated rotors, don't use the OE or any other fully organic pads or you'll eat them in a few months.

* Proper shimming (rear) and silicone lubrication (both, liberally, back of the pads) are required for quiet operation.

Whatever you do, if you value your nerves, don't buy brake parts from the local AutoZone/Pep/Advance/etc.

Also, be sure to look up the correct bedding-in procedure for your pad/rotor combination. This creates a surface film of pad material on the rotor that helps assure smooth consistent stops and long rotor life. For this reason, always stick with the same pad type, preferably same brand and part number, for the life of the rotor. Some setups need a few deliberate hard stops from a precalculated sequence of speeds, others simply need a light touch for the first 400 miles or so.
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Post by elchopperfreak »

So, a good list of what is a reasonable aftermarket replacement, for a lower price would be in order...

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Post by claymore850 »

For a lot of time I have been using FCP aftermarket parts. without any kind of problems, some times at half price of BLUE BOX.

Volvo wont make parts, there are high quality supliers in the market ........just change the box and duplicates the price.. parts like
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Post by cn90 »

Axle CV Boots: Volvo OEM ONLY!!!

I changed my Axle CV Rubber Boot in Oct. 2008 and wrote it up below.
I tried to save a few bucks and bought "Rein" CV Boots (PN: 271648, Rein $30, Volvo OEM $65):
https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... =1&t=29716

I was under the car checking things and saw that the "Rein" CV Boots start cracking (no grease leak yet) after 2.5 years and 20K miles!

The OEM Volvo rubber boots lasted 10 years/100K miles.

Live and learn, next time Volvo OEM Rubber Boots only!

PS: I know some would say use R-Axles, EMPI etc. etc. but I want to keep the OEM Acle as it was made by GKN-Lobro.
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Post by precopster »

Ignition switches and PNP switches, in fact ANY SWITCH not OEM is going to be troulblesome in the longrun and can make diagnosis a PAIN.
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Post by elchopperfreak »

Who makes the Control Arms?.

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Post by IVIUSTANG »

elchopperfreak wrote:Who makes the Control Arms?.
You sure cover all your bases chopper :) Lemforder is OEM.

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Post by elchopperfreak »

This is what they claim on the control arms and other suspension parts..


" TRW & Lucas and Lemforder are the two major OEM chassis and suspension manufacturers of BMW and Mercedes Benz.  TRW & Lucas is the only manufacturer which produces every main component of chassis, suspension, and braking system (control arm, bushing, tie rod end, pads, discs, calipers, master cylinders, wheel cylinder etc). TRW & Lucas delivers chassis, suspension, and braking parts to all of the biggest automotive manufacturers in the world.  They include BMW, Mercedes Benz, Volvo, VW, Jaguar, Landrover, Porsche, Audi, Ford, GM, Chrysler, etc.    The market share of TRW & Lucas is at least triple than Lemforder.   TRW & Lucas is also captured the highest market share of the braking system in the world ( around 40%). It is also the only one Original Equipement Manufacture which still produces all of its parts in Europe.  Lemforder has already moved its manufacturers to China"

Also whats the deal with Beck/Arnley? They are priced within the OEM range..

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Post by precopster »

erikv11 wrote: The cars left the factory with radiators made by Blackstone or Valeo. Unless Volvo changed it very recently, the ones they ship now are all made by Valeo. I haven't bought one in over a year now, IMHO that would be a shame if they have gone to Nissens without dropping the price considerably.
Hope you don't mind me quoting you from a later post for this earlier thread, Erik. Thought it would make it more complete as the topic of radiator brand wasn't brought up in this old thread.
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Post by Fred760DC »

Thee is no winning this argument Gentlefolk.
Some people are zealots, some are Restorers, some are utilitarian. (Some are Unitarian..look in their parking lot. Volvos everywhere!) THERE IS NO IDEAL ANSWER . There's just whatever you like. I think the assumption is that OEM parts are the best available. Said the guy who is replacing his SECOND bent timing belt tensioner (FCP/GMB) Twice is not a fluke.

Thank you for the list of OEM brands.

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