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Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

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Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by Eddystone » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Still kicking around this headlight issue. I have two new TYC headlights I have not installed yet. $80 each

When I bring in my high beams, I have all the light in the world. Can the low beam plating be that much worse than the high beam plating in the same housing? I guess I will need to pull a headlight and remove the lens to see, but it's been bitter cold and crazy where I am lately. Tomorrow is supposed to be a high of 53 F with rain and then a low of 9 F a few hours later.

Crazy idea maybe, but would it be possible to just angle the headlights downward and run with the high beams on? I'm no too concerned about oncoming traffic on the interstate and half the cars coming toward me on the surface roads are already blinding ME with their super headlights, including those nasty HIDs. What I mainly notice is that the high beams blast the back of any cars in FRONT of me and are clearly pointed higher than the low beams. (I know- Duh!) I just have this sneaky suspicion that after I put in the new headlights (most likely rendering them less returnable) they aren't going to be much better.

My T5 and my 945 both have factory "fog" lights, but they don't seem to make much difference when you switch them on.

I am thinking of mounting some 1.5" high by 6" wide LED spot light bars down by the stock fog lights and wiring them directly to the fog light switch on the dash. Being spots and not floods, I may be able to aim them so that they are low enough to be acceptable (I mean "morally" as a driver, not legally, not that any headlight laws seem to be enforced anymore).

Has anyone tried anything other than mounting new headlight assemblies? Are they REALLY going to be a lot brighter, or are they likely to be wasted money and labor?


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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by abscate » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:38 pm

Yes. My 1999 had one bad right low beam, all the others bright, due to reflector degradation.


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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by Eddystone » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:28 pm

abscate wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:38 pm
Yes. My 1999 had one bad right low beam, all the others bright, due to reflector degradation.
I'm putting an off-road light bar on the roof.

Maybe I'll go out in the 53 F degree rain tomorrow before it heads down to 9 F tomorrow night.

Ah, to be Down Under in January!


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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by abscate » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:21 am

Just poked my head out to 12 inches of white gold and still coming down heavily.


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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by LOB » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:31 pm

My hope is that a new pair of LED-bulbs will improve my low beam headlight. I've ordered these;

NOK 200.82 31%OFF | CNSUNNYLIGHT H7 LED H11 H4 H1 with Lumileds ZES Chips 9900LM 72W/set 9005 Car Headlight Bulb 9006 H8 Fog Lamp Headlamp 12V 24V
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cMQhI60o

These ones are supposed to mimic the filament placement on a halogen bulb and hence only be stronger but have the same light pattern.

My high beams are ,140 W HID and 190w LED so the contrast switching over to low beams is significant.

Do you TS really plan to use a LED- bar for low beam? Wouldn't be appreciated where I live....



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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by Eddystone » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:30 pm

LOB wrote:
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Do you TS really plan to use a LED- bar for low beam? Wouldn't be appreciated where I live....
No light bar. Only kidding. I might install some long and narrow LED lights down next to the stock driving lights, though.

The gist of my conversations has been that if the reflective plating for any particular bulb has deteriorated, no bulb however bright will give you the light you need. You can look into the headlights and see the plating, but you need to know how it is supposed to look in order to really tell if it is bad. When it was new, its reflectivity was like that of a finely focused mirror, and that's what the aftermarket TYC headlights are like.

I'll look at the bulbs you suggest, and get back to you.


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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by Eddystone » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:37 pm

LOB wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:31 pm
My hope is that a new pair of LED-bulbs will improve my low beam headlight. I've ordered these;

NOK 200.82 31%OFF | CNSUNNYLIGHT H7 LED H11 H4 H1 with Lumileds ZES Chips 9900LM 72W/set 9005 Car Headlight Bulb 9006 H8 Fog Lamp Headlamp 12V 24V
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cMQhI60o
I think you will have to modify the headlight assemblies to fit those in, won't you.

I'm still thinking that the reflector is the key component in lighting, and nothing will fix that if it is bad. I replaced my standard low beam headlight bulbs with some that are supposed to be 30% brighter and saw no difference whatsoever.

When my standard high beams are on with just stock lamps and no mods, the lights are plenty bright enough.


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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by abscate » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:32 pm

In our climates you need a resistive type light bulb to keep the headlight warm and ice melting.


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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by LOB » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:26 am

abscate wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:32 pm
In our climates you need a resistive type light bulb to keep the headlight warm and ice melting.
Yes that's a disadvantage. But I guess the washer fluid will take care of any ice building. I'm sick and tired of being blinded by modern cars low beam. In a perfect angle modern led projector light does not blind you. Unfortunately Norwegian roads are not totally flat. Tired of being the sucker in this glare game im stocking up.... :wink:



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Re: Headlights, again... '98 '99 S70 V70

Post by Rattnalle » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:32 am

Even led bulbs with reasonable emitter placement won't give you the same proper beam pattern and will blind incoming traffic. It varies quite a bit how much though, some are terrible others ok.

Regarding the reflectors I've mostly only seen reflectors that are worn on the low beam side. Barely every high beam reflectors unless someone stuck a 100w bulb in there. If the high beams are ok but low beams are useless it's most likely the reflector.

Also it's possible to fit a little box that compensates for voltage drop to give slightly higher light output as well if voltage isn't what it should be by the bulb.



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