i'm pretty sure that the TPS i have used, is the one being used by the xemodex. they reload the software with your car's VIN number, so makes it PNP. no need for the dealer. also they give a new gasket,screws, etc.
they claim that their solution doesn't require any modifications. but if it is indeed the same TPS i have used, it must be moded as you can see from the pics, the motor has to be shorten.
Volvo s60 P/N 8644345 2001 non-turbo ETM pictures
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Thanks for taking and sharing all those pictures Yehuda, it's interesting to see all that is required to repair these ETMs.
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Yehuda
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If those pictures, and information has helped someone, i'm happy for that.
it wasn't an easy repair at all, but the knowledge gained worth it.
i were almost gave up, i told myself "enough!, if the software reload doesn't fix it, i'll buy a new one from the dealer and let him do everything, and pay whatever it takes", luckily it did fix it.
now the car is running smooooooothly, really better than before, the pedal is so responsive, i barely touch it, and the car just fly.
it's worth just the self proudness feeling, that i wasn't a fool that gets ripped off because of disinformation, or lack of it.
it wasn't an easy repair at all, but the knowledge gained worth it.
i were almost gave up, i told myself "enough!, if the software reload doesn't fix it, i'll buy a new one from the dealer and let him do everything, and pay whatever it takes", luckily it did fix it.
now the car is running smooooooothly, really better than before, the pedal is so responsive, i barely touch it, and the car just fly.
it's worth just the self proudness feeling, that i wasn't a fool that gets ripped off because of disinformation, or lack of it.
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My 2000 V70s ETS light attacked me afew weeks ago and had various limp home periods as well as TPS codes on the OBDII reader. I have been using a '99 V70s ETM for a couple of weeks now as a stand-in and the idle is way too high and I have lost cruise control.
Thanks to Yehuda's immense help and encouragement I tackled the ETM Sacer fitment today and found it took around 2 hours.
If you are impatient or not used to working with small fiddly items I suggest you leave something like this to XeModex who have done probably thousands by now. Good soldering skills are essential as this is a safety related component.
The green putty takes forever to remove and it must be done very carefully with small drivers a little at a time.
After cutting the shaft down I used compressed air to remove any metal filings as this is a safety related component and you don't want iron filings on the throttle shaft.
I've also retaped and re-shrink tubed the entire loom as it was quite torn and holy.
Thanks to Yehuda's immense help and encouragement I tackled the ETM Sacer fitment today and found it took around 2 hours.
If you are impatient or not used to working with small fiddly items I suggest you leave something like this to XeModex who have done probably thousands by now. Good soldering skills are essential as this is a safety related component.
The green putty takes forever to remove and it must be done very carefully with small drivers a little at a time.
After cutting the shaft down I used compressed air to remove any metal filings as this is a safety related component and you don't want iron filings on the throttle shaft.
I've also retaped and re-shrink tubed the entire loom as it was quite torn and holy.
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- A little solder on this wire and presto!!
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- You need to separate and isolate this pin (I drilled it apart with a 2.5mm drill as my 40W iron was having no effect)
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- Finally after around 45 mins and very sore fingers!!
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- 15 minutes into putty removal
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- The magnetic sensor attached to the nut with Loctite used
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- Throttle Shaft cut down with Ozito tool (Dremmel)
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- What you see after the 3 wire side is removed, but be gentle with the pins
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- Cutting the shaft with a high speed stone cutting tool.
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- What came in the pack
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Current cars VW Transporter 2.5TDI, 2010 XC90 D5 R Design
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precopster
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This was so easy to do and the result was first class. The most cost-effective 2.5 hours I've spent on any of my vehicles to date. Just hope it stays that way!! In my case an ETM reload was not necessary.
After fitting it this afternoon the idle is back to normal (around 860rpm) and the throttle response is as it should be. The cruise control has returned and the car is back in business.
After fitting it this afternoon the idle is back to normal (around 860rpm) and the throttle response is as it should be. The cruise control has returned and the car is back in business.
Current cars VW Transporter 2.5TDI, 2010 XC90 D5 R Design
Big thanks to firstv70volvo, with his directions and some left over parts, I was able to duplicate his repair with the Vishay hall effect angle sensor. Learned a whole bunch during the process!firstv70volvo wrote: I’ve also spent far too many hours attempting to fix the Magneti Marelli ETM and finally did have some success. I’ve been using the repaired ETM for more than 5,000 miles now. I used an off-the-shelf Vishay throttle position sensor and modified the housing and ETM side plate to make it work.
We experimented with several voltage ranges, looked at the repaired results on VIDA/DiCE ETM sweep test, and even measured all the mechanical angles with a good old fashioned protractor
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Is the Vishay sensor easy to source or do they put you through the griller to buy one?
Also may I ask approximately what the cost of the sensor was?
Also may I ask approximately what the cost of the sensor was?
Current cars VW Transporter 2.5TDI, 2010 XC90 D5 R Design
Looks like you can buy single for about $35 US. Shipping from this site to Australia is like $20+precopster wrote:Is the Vishay sensor easy to source or do they put you through the griller to buy one?
Also may I ask approximately what the cost of the sensor was?
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vis ... YUEM4L0%3d
Job requires cutting open the Vishay and lots of custom precision assembly to set proper alignments + spaces + voltages. I'd say not for DIYer who prefer plug and play. Sacer TPS seems to be exclusive to Xemodex in US so not available to US consumers.
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Hi Yehuda,
I'm reading with interest you topic from the time you started it. Nice job, man!
So my question is: a year later how is the sacer's sensor behave? Any problems at all? Idle, cruise, DTC codes ...
I'm planning to go over your steps, but sacer's worker told me the minimum order s for 5pcs - however, i'll find 4 friends here in BG to combine the order. I just need to be sure that the TPS is reliable.
Thanks for your response.
I'm reading with interest you topic from the time you started it. Nice job, man!
So my question is: a year later how is the sacer's sensor behave? Any problems at all? Idle, cruise, DTC codes ...
I'm planning to go over your steps, but sacer's worker told me the minimum order s for 5pcs - however, i'll find 4 friends here in BG to combine the order. I just need to be sure that the TPS is reliable.
Thanks for your response.
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VOLVO 440 1.7i 89y. B18E
VOLVO 460 1.8 mono 91y. B18U
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VOLVO S80 2.9 200hp '00y. B6294S
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I Miss My Mind The Most.
VOLVO 440 1.7i 89y. B18E
VOLVO 460 1.8 mono 91y. B18U
VOLVO S40 1.8 115hp 16V 97y. B4184S
VOLVO S80 2.9 200hp '00y. B6294S
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Hello yuckuJackD,
the sacer's sensor works great as it should, i haven't faced any problems related to it, it's very reliable from my experience.
BTW, if you can't find more friends to combine the order & you need it fast, i'm selling them on eBay.
here are links to the listings:
Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MESE:IT
Fixed price: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MESE:IT
Good Luck,
Yehuda
the sacer's sensor works great as it should, i haven't faced any problems related to it, it's very reliable from my experience.
BTW, if you can't find more friends to combine the order & you need it fast, i'm selling them on eBay.
here are links to the listings:
Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MESE:IT
Fixed price: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... RK:MESE:IT
Good Luck,
Yehuda
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