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OBD-II / OBD II Capabilities & Recommendations & Code P0171

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1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
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1997volvo850
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Re: OBD-II / OBD II Capabilities & Recommendations & Code P0

Post by 1997volvo850 »

I may be making some progress with my P0171 System Too Lean (Bank 1).

Tonight I replaced my old rusty fuel filter. Before the change stepping on the gas had very little effect
whatsoever. I mean the car took its time accelerating. If I recall correctly the RPMs would slowly climb
close to 3000. The acceleration was controlled at best.

After changing the fuel filter the car takes off for the first time in years. I had thought this old dog was ready
for retirement but changing the fuel filter appears to have brought her back to life.

Now when I step on the gas the car takes off. I'm not a hard driver (so the sluggishness never really bothered
me as much as the check engine light and the P0171 code) but I was getting her over 4000 RPMs without much
difficulty. I'm not sure how hard to push the car at this point. It's like night and day now.

When I start slow and push the pedal to the floor the car takes off and I hear a sound that could either be
a vacuum leak OR the turbo kicking in - OR both. The way the car takes off I suspect the turbo must be
kicking in. Would the clogged fuel filter cause the turbo not to operate?

The old fuel filter clearly turned my car into a dog. The P0171 code is related to lean fuel mixture or too much
oxygen (vacuum leak). It's not clear this will solve my P0171 problem.

Even though the car behaves like a new car I supposed I could have a vacuum leak that develops when I'm operating
at high RPMs? This will trigger the P0171 again.

Enough for now. Interesting how this little fuel filter can effect so much. I'm still running on my old plugs (70k) to let
all the crap I've dumped into the gas get out before I install my new OEM plugs. Maybe new plugs will also
help eliminate the P0171 code. With new plugs she'll be running just like when we bought her.... :D
Old rusty beast...
Old rusty beast...

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Post by jblackburn »

That thing looks like it's never been changed before. I usually do one every 4-5 years or so purely as a preventative measure.

I'd change out the spark plugs, and reset the computer - it sounds to me like you have found the problem. Your engine will also re-learn its adaptives this way, and get used to running with a normal amount of fuel again. And yes, the turbo when operating correctly does make a nice little woosh noise.

That's the fun of a LPT model - the first time I drove one, a 2004 model, I took off from a stoplight and squealed the tires before I realized how incredibly sensitive the gas pedal is in the electronic throttle models and the low-end torque of that engine.

The T5 engine has very little to give up off the line, and I have the only mechanical throttle car of any that I still drive on a regular basis, so I always end up jolting people as I try to re-adjust to the sensitivity of the newer cars :mrgreen:
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Post by 1997volvo850 »

I'm now remembering what my car was like when it was young.

It's time to install the new plugs and reset things. I guess I'll drive it until I reach 100 miles
or I buy a OBD II tool to check for pending codes. Of course that's if the check engine light
doesn't come on first.

Thanks

PS: When I started her up she was smoking like a factory. I believe the cooler weather was the main
factor. Her sitting so much also allows moisture to build up. After my test drive there was no white
smoke. I must have cleaned her out good. When I change the plugs I'll see if the pistons are still
covered with carbon. Will be interesting to see if the additives (injection cleaner, octane boost) and
hard driving burned any of that carbon off. Stay tuned...

Hoov
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Post by Hoov »

Has anybody checked out http://www.obdcom.com? Or actually worked with one?
Looks pretty cool but it does need a laptop to work with it. Price is right if it is what it claims to be.

Hoov

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Post by 1997volvo850 »

The OBDCOM software looks quite impressive. Is there any other OBD software out there?

I'd like to hear from anyone who has tried this software on a Volvo 850.

I'm very tempted...and when my son gets bored on long trips he will be able to fire up this
software and analyze engine performance.

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Post by Hoov »

1997volvo850 wrote:I'm very tempted...and when my son gets bored on long trips he will be able to fire up this
software and analyze engine performance.
Ahh! YOU too! Did you read through the site? I was honestly impressed with their seeming openess. Unless someone here has negative things to say, in another month or so I'm just going to buy it.
Not as convenient as a small scanner but sure has some nice features. I have two laptops so that is not a problem nor is "perching" one inside the car temporarily. $88.00 bucks sounds really good to me. (I appreciate the autoparts stores reading codes for free but truly hate the inconveniance of having them do so. LOL I also can't help feeling like a beggar either & hate waiting around till they have time to get to it. (Not a slight to the service provided, I'm just selfish about my time which is why I'm able to understand theirs is valuable too. It's just that mine is MORE valuable!! :lol: )
OBDCOM also claims that they clear even "manufacturer codes" which means "goodbye, Service Light" in my 1996 850, N/A, GLT without doing the mod.
This scanner has everything I need & a scoche more. I don't care about the lack of ABS, Air bags, etc. & like you, I'm not about to spend $700.00- 800.00 bucks or more. ... AND the software works with ALL vehicles not just the Volvo. The other scanners I've been looking at are priority as to manufacturer.
I've been burned on the net before but these folks sound real to me.

Hoov

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I don't know if it is true, but I have read that PC based software is very SLOW...If one has an older computer, so much the worse...A ton of data, pictures, etc has to be pulled up every time you execute the program...

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Post by Hoov »

jerrymcc wrote:I don't know if it is true, but I have read that PC based software is very SLOW...If one has an older computer, so much the worse...A ton of data, pictures, etc has to be pulled up every time you execute the program...
Hadn't thought about that & there is a defnite consideration.
My main laptop Is LOADED! (friend is an IT & built it for me about six months ago.) It was built for SPEED & internet use. (HE, not me, is a gamer.) LOL, I can't say I don't enjoy the bennies though.

They claim a 30 day, no questions asked warranty. :roll: Assuming of course, they honor it than it might be worth the shipping to chk it out.
I dunno! I'm going to look in to it further.

Thanks for the heads up.

Hoov

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Post by 1997volvo850 »

I am thinking to get a copy and do a write-up in this thread or possibly a new thread.

If there are speed issues I would expect they'd be obvious.

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Post by Hoov »

1997volvo850 wrote:I am thinking to get a copy and do a write-up in this thread or possibly a new thread.
If there are speed issues I would expect they'd be obvious.
LOL ... "Great minds think alike" Hahaha ... Had the same thought.

A new thread, though redundant might be a good idea because of all the other discussion here. I would do that.
When I get mine ... A month or so from now realisticaly, I'll PM you so we don't duplicate stuff.
You are right! Speed issues will be immediately obvious.

If you start first I'll just add to the thread. I'm really intrigued by this software but am a month down the road for sure.

Hoov

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