2000 V70 T5 Trans fluid (2001 USA Model)

Post by **T5AUS** » 12 Oct 2010, 15:54

My latest edition, which I found last week, is a 2000 V70 T5 with 140 tho K's on it (about 86k miles) which I brought at auction from a deceased estate. It had been sitting in a garage for the past two years so was a little dusty and faded but in excellent condition. Because it was unregistered I was unable to test drive it and so brought it having only heard the engine run, which sounded good. I was able to drive it a few feet within the confines of the yard but that was it, so a bit of a gamble re the trans . I trailered it over to my local European car specialist garage for a full service which they did in a couple of days. every thing was fine apart from the electric window drivers side which needed a new part. He mentioned that when they drained the trany oil it was very black and so they flushed it a couple of times before adding new. When I finally phoned him up to arrange a time to collect it he told me that everything was fine apart from the gear box having some issues, but it could improve as the new fluid starts to lubricate a gearbox that had been static for so long. I Arranged to go and collect the next morning and had a very sleepless night. We took it out for a test run and sure enough it was slipping and reving out of gear but it was apparently better than it was the day before. I gingerly drove it the ten miles home with it still playing up, mainly in the lower range. Since then I have taken it out a on a couple more days and surprisingly it has improved and yesterday I decided to really give it a blast and did a few fast take offs just to see if it had cleared and sure enough, she ran up through the gear changes very fast and smoothly and is sooooo much better. It just does a little slip now and then in the very low range so not perfect but looking promising, fingers crossed. I know that there have been a lot of issues with these boxes and a lot of debate about using the correct ATF so could I get an opinion here please...My mechanic used Penrite fully synthetic ATF but I have no idea if this is correct as I dont know if it is up to the 3309 spec. I have attached details of the Penrite from their website, what do you think? Thanks people (sorry for the ramble)

Post by **JRL** » 12 Oct 2010, 16:16

I agree
Do a couple of more drain and fills.
It sounds as if it may be OK with more running and clean fluid
Three (3) drain and fills is = to a full flush

Post by **T5AUS** » 12 Oct 2010, 16:44

Thanks
Not a five speed?, my book says its a 5 speed adaptive geartronic. It has the auto and preselect function so I am confused

Allen in Hemet · Post by **Allen in Hemet** » 12 Oct 2010, 17:08

My 2000 volvo owner's manual states that ONLY the All Wheel Drive models got the fours speed auto box. The Front wheel (2 wheel) Drive models get the five speed auto box. Unfortunaly, here in the states, the T-5 wasn't availble in 2000. But it sounds like you have the same tranny found in the 2001 T-5's and Cross Country's which did get the GearTronic Manu-Matic 5 speed Auto trannys They do require the 3309 tranny fluid, which you can get equivelant from your local Toyata dealer. Look up transmission fluid in the Repair Data base. By the way, Good find! R/ Allen

Post by **jblackburn** » 12 Oct 2010, 17:26

You're right! There was no 2000 V70 T5. I didn't notice where you were from.

I take what I know from my knowledge of the S70 line - in those, only the base NA models had the 5 speed auto. The GLT, T5 (which the S70 DID have for the 2000 model year), and XC models used the 4-speed, while the R's and base/SE models got the 5.

You may have what we refer to as a "2001" model - some countries classify the years differently. Does it look like this one? Or more like my blue one over there >>>?

If that's the case, do you feel a "thunk" when you let off the brake and hit the gas? If you do, get that car to a dealer as soon as possible and have the transmission software updated.

Post by **T5AUS** » 12 Oct 2010, 18:07

LOL, ok thanks guys, had me worried for a minute. I am having the codes and updates done on Friday as well as the ATF changed to the right stuff. I have attached a photo of it

Post by **T5AUS** » 15 Oct 2010, 15:17

Hi again
well I took her into a regular Volvo service centre here in Brisbane yesterday, They are the #1 Volvo sellers for Queensland so I figured they would be able to help by running a few tests and maybe do some updates to the system. What a waste of time that was. The young service manager was fresh out of college and I dont think had used a spanner in his life let alone worked on transmissions. However, he said "he will have one of the mechanics give it a run and do a few tests" Four hours later I returned to see what they had found and the vague answer was "there were loads of gear box fault codes so you need a new trans"! So I asked what were the fault codes, his reply, "dont know, they just said there were lots of them". So I asked, dont you have a print out, is there no record of what you found, "nope, sorry" and that was his answer. I think they just took it for a run, it jumped about a bit and so it needed replacing, they must be on a bonus for every one of these they turn over. Damn what a wasted day that was, if they cant stick a new one in they aint interested in fixing it, they wouldn't even change the ATF. So now I guess my next move is to get some compatible ATF with the 3309 spec and see if that makes a difference. This looks like being another one of those long drawn out trans saga's

Post by **JRL** » 15 Oct 2010, 16:00

Yeah good lucK with that
That's a P2 2001 needs 3309 fluid and you MUST make sure it has the latest software

You really need to see ALL the codes.
It probably has a page or two of stored codes, most are harmless and need nothing, but I'm sure there are a couple that need to be addressed.

Ask them To PRINT OUT the VIDA sheet, then ask the most knowledgeable "tech" there (I say this loosely from the sound of the place) what they all mean, (if he even knows)!

Post by **T5AUS** » 15 Oct 2010, 16:28

Thanks JRL, not too sure where to go next to get the codes checked, perhaps my guys back at where it was originally serviced but I am not sure if they have the VIDA machine, will check Monday.

Post by **jblackburn** » 16 Oct 2010, 07:16

Have them clear all codes if they are able - or do it yourself by yanking the battery cable for a few minutes. Get the proper fluid in there, and just drive it some more and see if things improve.

In the meantime, look for a different dealer to take it to. Or see if things clear up a bit on their own before taking it there. If that's the only one around, you just need to be more knowledgeable/insistent. It's your car, and they will do what you tell them to if they want your money.

PS - for our purposes, please refer to this one as a 2001 now - I'm going to move this to the "P2" car section. It'll avoid confusion on our end