Vehicle: V70 2.0T
Year: 2001
current Mileage: 121.000
In Service Date: 2001
ETM sticker color: white
ETM replaced? no, I suspect cleaned once before
How Many times? 0
Mileage ETM installed? 121.000
I bought this vehicle only a couple of weeks ago after we arrived from Europe in New Zealand, our new home country. Me & family were happily driving around visiting family, friends, interesting sites and prospective homes. The car had a thorough pre-buy checkover and seemed to be in excellent condition including caring owners and an extensive service history. To our dismay the car suddenly stumbled, lost power and started to run very rough after only ~1500km's. As an experienced amateur mechanic (there you go) I thought of a deceased coil as it felt running on 1 cilinder less than normal. This was also the opinion of the AA who advised me to drive slowly for the 4km's to the dealer. Underway I realised the car was in limb mode and that the coil scenario was one of many.
The dealer (my first and last visit, read on) was actually quite helpful and scanned and printed the codes for free. Free, yeah right as he suggested to try to clean but most likley change the ETM for $2050NZ (~$1500US) excluding labor and programming. After reading this & Don's excellent website the full extent of the damage + the best cure became apparent.
My first stop was to confront the dealer with the cost of the genuine Volvo part (~$500US) and the US recall program. No result whatsoever as in a small country like New Zealand monopolies are quite common. For you ten other Volvo / Porsche / Landrover / Maseratie suckers!
Next step was to read up on the ETM change procedure which was within my capability although I don't have a garage yet and my tools are inside a 20ft container floating at sea. I ordered a Xemodex ETM through the Australia route after some email exchange with Don and Chris. Long story short: the Xemoded ETM is now installed and I have once again a proper responding Volvo at my right foot.
Some comments regarding the installation:
I used the instructions at http://tinyurl.com/volvoetmhelp. The instructions were a big help but I found them a little bit too dramatic. It is a very easy procedure, just take your time and prepare. I suspect my original ETM had been cleaned once before as the electrical lead was no longer behind the starter bracket. The instructions indicate the removal of the ETM tube as a difficult step but if you unscrew the hose clamp far enough and wiggle the hose in all 4 directions if comes right off. When installing make sure you remember how the various electrical leads were routed. The ones to the fan are not long enough to be routed under the ETM hose at the radiator end (ask me how I know).
The order process through the Xemoded website is easy enough but I did have some frustrations. When I placed my order it was Friday CoB in Canada so my order wasn't shipped until Monday afternoon. The website stated 3 days UPS overnight shipping to Australia so I was confident I would be driving again at the end of the week. Not so as the UPS Saver scheme used actually doensn't guarantee anything. Tracking through the UPS website seems like a great service but for long distances it is inaccurate and the local UPS staff is not able to supply any detail. The intended delivery date was changed twice without any reason. As I found 12 days without a car too longI ended up paying a local courier company to take care of the last leg. UPS was not delivering through the weekend and also shutting down for an additional 2 Christmas days. . It would be great if Xemodex offered quaranteed delivery at an additional charge.
Feel free to approach me for any questions etc: [email protected]
Cheers,
John
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Vehicle: V70 Turbo
Year: 2001
current Mileage: 113k
In Service Date: 2001
ETM sticker color: yello
ETM replaced? yes 2006
How Many times? 1
Mileage ETM installed? previous owner - estimate 65k
I just removed my old ETM and installed a Xemodex. I ordered the part on Monday, received it Thursday from Canada, and put in this morning. I am not a mechanic by any means, but am pretty handy. When the dealer quoted me "about $1,100", I figured I didn't have much to lose. I will say this job was a lot of work for a non-mechanic. I'm also a big guy, with bigger hands, etc so that doesn't help. However, I like to save money and enjoy the challenge. Because I have received so much help on various topics on youtube, etc. I videotaped some of this to hopefully help some others through this process. There is nothing about this particular job that was very advanced, it's just that on th V70 Turbo, it's just every step is a pain in the neck. The screws are hidden or covered by other parts, hoses, etc. With a break for lunch, it took me about 4 hours...some of that time just taking a walk to rest my back. A lot of it you are bent over the engine reaching under to access bolts, electric clips, etc.
I removed the turbo hose that goes over the intake manifold, then the dipstick. After that was off, I took out the fan. Next I removed the big hose (sorry dont know the technical name) that runs under the manifold and connects directly to the underside of the ETM. After that was off, I removed the 4 bolts holding the EMT on, and unplugged it.
Mine was very dirty and there was oily gunk in the hose. I have to research if there is another issue that is allowing oil or something into the hose. After everything was back together I gave it a test run and the issue is resolved.
When my video is together I will put a link here.
Year: 2001
current Mileage: 113k
In Service Date: 2001
ETM sticker color: yello
ETM replaced? yes 2006
How Many times? 1
Mileage ETM installed? previous owner - estimate 65k
I just removed my old ETM and installed a Xemodex. I ordered the part on Monday, received it Thursday from Canada, and put in this morning. I am not a mechanic by any means, but am pretty handy. When the dealer quoted me "about $1,100", I figured I didn't have much to lose. I will say this job was a lot of work for a non-mechanic. I'm also a big guy, with bigger hands, etc so that doesn't help. However, I like to save money and enjoy the challenge. Because I have received so much help on various topics on youtube, etc. I videotaped some of this to hopefully help some others through this process. There is nothing about this particular job that was very advanced, it's just that on th V70 Turbo, it's just every step is a pain in the neck. The screws are hidden or covered by other parts, hoses, etc. With a break for lunch, it took me about 4 hours...some of that time just taking a walk to rest my back. A lot of it you are bent over the engine reaching under to access bolts, electric clips, etc.
I removed the turbo hose that goes over the intake manifold, then the dipstick. After that was off, I took out the fan. Next I removed the big hose (sorry dont know the technical name) that runs under the manifold and connects directly to the underside of the ETM. After that was off, I removed the 4 bolts holding the EMT on, and unplugged it.
Mine was very dirty and there was oily gunk in the hose. I have to research if there is another issue that is allowing oil or something into the hose. After everything was back together I gave it a test run and the issue is resolved.
When my video is together I will put a link here.
big bill wrote:I just ordered the part and will be doing this this weekend. I will videotape portions and put on youtube if successful.
2001 Volvo V70 Turbo. Dealer quoted over $1000
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mikealder
- Posts: 817
- Joined: 25 October 2009
- Year and Model: V70 2000
- Location: Blackpool
- Been thanked: 13 times
If its engine oil in the intake pipe feeding air to the ETM then a small amount isn't unusual as the Turbo will leak tiny droplets of oil vapour which condensate out in the pipe resulting in oily "muck" in the pipework.
If the engine is smoking heavily from the exhaust then consider looking at the Turbo bearings and seals, if no smoke I would clean the pipe out and put it all back together again - Mike
If the engine is smoking heavily from the exhaust then consider looking at the Turbo bearings and seals, if no smoke I would clean the pipe out and put it all back together again - Mike
I did it ! And it was like a breeze! Considering that XeMODex is in Mississauga close to my home..... No troubles , no issues. Installed , turned key and there you go ! And I paid like a stupid one 200 bucks to Volvo for a cleaning , 2 weeks before..... Shame on me ! I could split the money with xeMODex buying them some beer ! DO NOT FORGET to have a BACK MIRROR when dismantle this part. Its below bolts will come off very easy if you can see them .When I say a back mirror think to that mirror used to look underneath your car when you passing the police checkpoints!
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lewislewis
- Posts: 1
- Joined: 7 May 2011
- Year and Model: V70 2000
- Location: East Coast
Vehicle: V70
Year: 2000
current Mileage: 68000
In Service Date:
ETM sticker color: White
ETM replaced? Y,N No
How Many times?
Mileage ETM installed n/a
I did it myself and it was quite painless, about 1.5 hours. Cable was routed behind Starter, so I removed fan for access. You will need a torx bit on a ratchet to negotiate tight space for bottom fan screws. Engine ran roughly....Emailed folks @ Xemodex at 4:00 p.m. eastern, had the second ETM installed by 11:00 a.m. next morning. The problem was a software issue from dealers original upgrade. This was no surprise for the Xemodex staff. They handled the issue with total professionalism and speed. I can't get phone calls returned as fast as they got the second ETM to me. Car runs great and I am very pleased.
Lewis
Year: 2000
current Mileage: 68000
In Service Date:
ETM sticker color: White
ETM replaced? Y,N No
How Many times?
Mileage ETM installed n/a
I did it myself and it was quite painless, about 1.5 hours. Cable was routed behind Starter, so I removed fan for access. You will need a torx bit on a ratchet to negotiate tight space for bottom fan screws. Engine ran roughly....Emailed folks @ Xemodex at 4:00 p.m. eastern, had the second ETM installed by 11:00 a.m. next morning. The problem was a software issue from dealers original upgrade. This was no surprise for the Xemodex staff. They handled the issue with total professionalism and speed. I can't get phone calls returned as fast as they got the second ETM to me. Car runs great and I am very pleased.
Lewis
Can you elaborate on what the issue actually was?lewislewis wrote:The problem was a software issue from dealers original upgrade.
Current Volvos:
2004 C70 HPT (wife)
2002 S40 1.9T (daughter)
2001 V70 XC (daughter)
1999 V70 GLT (now dead)
1998 V70 GLT (son)
The other car: 2003 Saab 9-3 SE Convertible (mine)
2004 C70 HPT (wife)
2002 S40 1.9T (daughter)
2001 V70 XC (daughter)
1999 V70 GLT (now dead)
1998 V70 GLT (son)
The other car: 2003 Saab 9-3 SE Convertible (mine)
I've been lost the ETM wilderness for a few weeks. I learned about the XeMODeX ETM here, did a little more research, and decided to go this route. The deciding factor was I don't want to give Volvo any more business. By its specs, at any rate, the XeMODeX ETM is more robust than Volvo parts. Further, they use your VIN to pre-program it so when you get it it's ready to bolt on and drive away, so you aren't blackmailed into paying inflated shop rates. The kit includes a new gasket and a return shipping label for the core ($100 core charge).
I ordered Thursday morning at it was on my porch 2000 miles away on Friday morning. I took out the old one, put in the new, and drove away with no problems. I gave it a thorough test-drive and all the old symptoms are gone. In fact, the throttle is more responsive than I remember and my wife says it has more get-up-and-go.
I put my order in over the phone, and the customer service was excellent. At first I was a little nervous about buying this because they're in Canada and I'm in the USA, and it kind of felt like I was making a $600 bet. However, they run a very tight ship (tighter than Vovlo, it would seem) and if you're having ETM issues I recommend you go this route. I'm very, very happy thus far. I have more confidence in XeMODeX than I have in my local Volvo dealerships.
I'll edit this post in a month or so with an update on longer-term performance.
I ordered Thursday morning at it was on my porch 2000 miles away on Friday morning. I took out the old one, put in the new, and drove away with no problems. I gave it a thorough test-drive and all the old symptoms are gone. In fact, the throttle is more responsive than I remember and my wife says it has more get-up-and-go.
I put my order in over the phone, and the customer service was excellent. At first I was a little nervous about buying this because they're in Canada and I'm in the USA, and it kind of felt like I was making a $600 bet. However, they run a very tight ship (tighter than Vovlo, it would seem) and if you're having ETM issues I recommend you go this route. I'm very, very happy thus far. I have more confidence in XeMODeX than I have in my local Volvo dealerships.
I'll edit this post in a month or so with an update on longer-term performance.
Vehicle: C70
Year: 2000
In service date: 28 June 2000
Current Kms: 135680
ETM Sticker color: Yellow
ETM replaced: Y
How many times: Minimum 2
Mileage ETM installed: 1570 Kms ago
This car was driven into the 'Authorized' dealers workshop, where it was bought at 117,000kms, for a diagnostic fault report to determine the cause of Limp Mode setting in occasionally.
Got a call from them to say that after cleaning the ETM it had now 'failed' and the car could no longer be driven away and that the cost of ETM replacement would be $1,116. No fault codes were given to us at all.
This quote was refused as the car was driveable prior to the ETM clean and they the agents/workshop said the car must be collected with a tow truck as it was definitely not driveable with chronic idle and rapid cut out.
We accused them of damaging the ETM during the cleaning operation which they denied and said it was normal 'electronic failure' of the part and that Volvo South Africa does not have a 10 year warranty on the part.
After 3 months of stalemate the car was collected from the Dealer especially as the replacement part would have been another M Marelli ETM with only a 1 year warranty.
So we decided from this side of the world to try XeMODex especially with the lifetime warranty and no dealer software needed.
However, we were a little concerned that we could encounter some problems going this route.
We emailed XeMODex the VIN # and when we received the ETM we took out the old one which 'surprisingly' had a yellow sticker
which indicated that at 117,000kms this was already the second one in the car.
The XeMODex unit was duly fitted and the car started flawlessly, it seems to go better than it ever has. The great thing about it is that we could avoid further software dealings with the official Volvo workshop in this ETM fight.
The right hand side end cap on the old ETM is a little ajar, not sitting flush and some yellow thin material is slightly visible, can any one tell me if this is part of the cleaning operation to open this end cap ?
I can send a pic if someone wants to see it.
From ordering to fitting to running XeMODex is the professional way to go, they are highly recommendable and the lifetime warranty is real peace of mind versus the Volvo 12 month one. XeMODex gets your Volvo running great again give them your support.
Thanks XeMODex, no need to sell the Volvo now.
Year: 2000
In service date: 28 June 2000
Current Kms: 135680
ETM Sticker color: Yellow
ETM replaced: Y
How many times: Minimum 2
Mileage ETM installed: 1570 Kms ago
This car was driven into the 'Authorized' dealers workshop, where it was bought at 117,000kms, for a diagnostic fault report to determine the cause of Limp Mode setting in occasionally.
Got a call from them to say that after cleaning the ETM it had now 'failed' and the car could no longer be driven away and that the cost of ETM replacement would be $1,116. No fault codes were given to us at all.
This quote was refused as the car was driveable prior to the ETM clean and they the agents/workshop said the car must be collected with a tow truck as it was definitely not driveable with chronic idle and rapid cut out.
We accused them of damaging the ETM during the cleaning operation which they denied and said it was normal 'electronic failure' of the part and that Volvo South Africa does not have a 10 year warranty on the part.
After 3 months of stalemate the car was collected from the Dealer especially as the replacement part would have been another M Marelli ETM with only a 1 year warranty.
So we decided from this side of the world to try XeMODex especially with the lifetime warranty and no dealer software needed.
However, we were a little concerned that we could encounter some problems going this route.
We emailed XeMODex the VIN # and when we received the ETM we took out the old one which 'surprisingly' had a yellow sticker
which indicated that at 117,000kms this was already the second one in the car.
The XeMODex unit was duly fitted and the car started flawlessly, it seems to go better than it ever has. The great thing about it is that we could avoid further software dealings with the official Volvo workshop in this ETM fight.
The right hand side end cap on the old ETM is a little ajar, not sitting flush and some yellow thin material is slightly visible, can any one tell me if this is part of the cleaning operation to open this end cap ?
I can send a pic if someone wants to see it.
From ordering to fitting to running XeMODex is the professional way to go, they are highly recommendable and the lifetime warranty is real peace of mind versus the Volvo 12 month one. XeMODex gets your Volvo running great again give them your support.
Thanks XeMODex, no need to sell the Volvo now.
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