Code Errors after Timing belt change ---Are they related?

Bibicha · Post by **Bibicha** » 04 Feb 2012, 16:09

Hi,

I changed my timing belt at 153K and the next day I drove my car, I got 'multiple misfire cylinders' to whom the mechanic said that he didn't know. Later, I got codes: P1332 (CVVT Solenoid) and P0335 (crankshaft position sensor A circuit).

The timing belt was done in November. I picked up my car on 11/8 so this Tuesday, it will be 3 months and I drove less than 1600 miles with the car. I kept deleting the codes and they would come back. I am a woman and I am afraid this guy will just shut me off saying that the timing belt has nothing to do with the errors I am getting. I did some searches online and it seems that they ar. I would like someone to help me with this to tell me that they are in fact related. In fact the multiple cylinder misfiring happened day one of me driving the car after I got it from the shop. Please help me how to address this, what I should tell him and how to solve the problems.

By the way, this guy once repaired a transmission fluid leak on my right axle. I paid 240 but was never fixed. I had to come back to him. So he has history of not doing a good job at first.

I am hopping I can be prepared to call him or go to see him on Monday with some proof so he can resolve the problem.
So your help is so much appreciated.

Thank you so much

Post by **micah861** » 04 Feb 2012, 17:08

They deffinatly sound related to me. It sounds like he me have let one or both of the cams get a tooth off. This will cause a misfire. The camshaft code could be from a damaged camshaft position sensor, or could again, because the cam is in the wrong position.

I wouldn't go back to him again.

Bibicha · Post by **Bibicha** » 04 Feb 2012, 20:47

Thanks micah861 for taking the time to reply. You

He also changed my transmisson at the same time. He promised to clean the breather box while doing both jobs, but when I got my car back he said he couldnt do it because it was not in the same area (he promised me that he would do it). And that he would do it for 400 later. I have not done it!

Definitly, I have to gather enough information to defend my case since I am sure he will tell me that he does not know and that he is not responsible!

I just need him to fix what he did and I will not go back to him ever!

Thank you so much

Bibicha · Post by **Bibicha** » 06 Feb 2012, 20:44

If anyone could help me with another question relating to the timing belt.

I notice when I got my car back after changing the transmission and the timing belt (including the serpentine belt and some other stuff liek a cv booth.....), the car gets had start most of the times.
Sometimes it start right the way and other times it takes time. On there occasion in the past 3 months (almost), I got 'STC service required' while it tries to start. It went away right after the car started. I tried the STC which I could shut off and on in the past, it's ON all the time. Is there a relation? I iniatially went for a small transmission fluid leak on the axle that was not fixed and when I took it back (drove it), I had a call saying that my transmission was gone! Then I thought I after spending all the money that I may damage the engine a timing belt that was never changed.

It was changed at 153700 and now my car has 155400. I drove less than 1700 miles in the last 3 months.

So STC has a relationship with transmission, timing belt, serpentine belt????
And the hard drive sometimes?

Thank you so much

Post by **chrism** » 09 Feb 2012, 15:18

I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that one way the STC system controls wheel spin is to command the transmission to transfer more torque to the wheel that isn't spinning and less torque to the wheel that is spinning. If that's the case, then it could be transmission related.

You may need to take your car to a Volvo dealer or GOOD Volvo specialty independant mechanic that has the proper scanner to try and find the real problem. Certain faults can't be diagnosed with the normal OBD II type scanners.

Post by **318mike** » 09 Feb 2012, 15:58

There is a way to tell if he put the timing belt on wrong,but someone has to remove the timing cover.This is most likely the case

Post by **regent** » 09 Feb 2012, 16:25

I too agree that incorrect timing may cause those MF and position fault codes to be set. If I were to argue your case, I'd take a few good pictures to show that the timing marks are off. A picture is worth 1000 words.

As for the STC, there may be more probable causes, such as a sensor or wiring that could have been disturbed when the axle boot was done.

Bibicha · Post by **Bibicha** » 11 Feb 2012, 18:33

Thanks Chrism, Mike and Regent for replies.

I actually stopped by his shop Friday when he was leaving and he told me to come back Monday.
He told him that my timing belt was not done properly. He told me that the car would not run if the timing belt was not done correctly. You all know that it's not true!

I know with this guy I need some knoweldedge to fight back.

How can I take the pictures? Should I drive for a bit and then take the cover and take pictures??? what should I look for?
I am a woman with limited mechanic knoweldge but I am willing to dirty my hands and learn something in the way. I would appreciate how I can take the pictures.

I went to the dealer back in July for throttle problems and they didnt finish the diagnostics stating that repairs would exceed the value of the car. I have spent more than 3000 on the car from that time and I thought that I just needed to unclog the breather box and I would be all set. It's not all true!

But I should find away to get the to the STC as well since he changed my transmission. But I bought used one and I paid him to install it. I just hope it's sensors or related to the axle. I will definitly have to gather more info to make him repair what he's done!

Thank you gys, I appreciate it very much

Post by **regent** » 11 Feb 2012, 20:22

Can you specify the exact model of the car, like "2002 S60, naturally aspirated"; I could send you certain specifics regarding the timing belt on your engine.

Accessing the timing belt will require jacking up the car, removing a wheel and several other components before you can get to the timing belt and align the marks. I forgot to mention the tools.

On another note, please be safe. I would not recommend any kind of DIY on the car unless you have the required knowledge, skills and most important, safety awareness. Otherwise you want to get help from somebody whom you can trust. With all due respect, we do not want you or your car to get hurt

Bibicha · Post by **Bibicha** » 12 Feb 2012, 10:51

Thanks Regent

I will not venture with it but will go see him this week and see if he is illing to redo the job.
If not, I will have to the seek professional help to back me up.

My car is 1999 S80 T6 with 155500 miles. I changed the timing belt on 153700 three months ago.

Do you think as a result of the the engine will cease at one point?
What are the damages made to my engine with offset timing belt?

Thank you so much