Hello all,
Do any of you have any connection info on the vehicle mentioned above. I know that they are regularly fitted with a form of runlock when they are police or ambulance vehicles, mine was in it's former life. All original extra wiring appears to have been cut-back, so does not go to where it used to.
My questions are... whether there are other mods in the wiring to stop the immobilizer operating when the ignition key is removed, or does the immobilizer only check for the key when the vehicle is being started ? ... and... Will the vehicle then allow the central-locking to be operated when the key has been removed, or will the fact engine is still running prevent the central-locking operating as it does normally ?
Any information greatfully received.
Ian.
Query about 2001 V70-T5 with runlock fitted
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JRL
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What's a "Runlock"?
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Hello JRL,
Runlock is really a generic term for a number of manufacturers products... Some call it an "Ignition Control Unit".
It is fitted to allow the vehicle's engine to be left running, to stop battery running down when lights, radios etc left on. It allows the ignition key to be removed so that they cannot be stolen, while allowing car to be locked and left with the engine running.
If the vehicle is entered and an attempt made to drive away, engine will stop.
This is done by monitoring the brake-light switch or reversing-light switch (on an automatic), if either of these operate (without the ignition key being in the normal "run" position) it will kill the engine. If the key is re-inserted and turned to the normal "engine-run" position while the engine is running, the engine continues running and the "runlock" condition is cancelled, allowing the vehicle to be driven.
The use of these devices is outlined in Construction and Use Regulations related to vehicles left unattended with their engine's running. They are not necessarily restricted to emergency vehicles, they are sometimes fitted to recovery vehicles or vehicles with PTO being used. I was hoping to re-fit one of these units to my car as I would sometimes like to be able to leave engine running to power several 2 way radios in the car.
Hope that description helps.
Ian.
Runlock is really a generic term for a number of manufacturers products... Some call it an "Ignition Control Unit".
It is fitted to allow the vehicle's engine to be left running, to stop battery running down when lights, radios etc left on. It allows the ignition key to be removed so that they cannot be stolen, while allowing car to be locked and left with the engine running.
If the vehicle is entered and an attempt made to drive away, engine will stop.
This is done by monitoring the brake-light switch or reversing-light switch (on an automatic), if either of these operate (without the ignition key being in the normal "run" position) it will kill the engine. If the key is re-inserted and turned to the normal "engine-run" position while the engine is running, the engine continues running and the "runlock" condition is cancelled, allowing the vehicle to be driven.
The use of these devices is outlined in Construction and Use Regulations related to vehicles left unattended with their engine's running. They are not necessarily restricted to emergency vehicles, they are sometimes fitted to recovery vehicles or vehicles with PTO being used. I was hoping to re-fit one of these units to my car as I would sometimes like to be able to leave engine running to power several 2 way radios in the car.
Hope that description helps.
Ian.
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Runlock appeared on emergency vehicles after I retired from the Police. When I was driving patrol vehicles we carried a spare door key with us so we could leave the engine running and lock the doors at the scene of an incident. This was not necessarily legal as we had no exemption to leave the engine running whilst the vehicle was unattended.
The advent of Runlock changed that as an exemption was written into the legislation. However, that exemption is only for emergency response vehicles. Other vehicles attending the scenes of road traffic accidents do not have that exemption. This rules out recovery vehicles. Vehicles with PTO are usually not left unattended as the operator has to be with the vehicle to control the PTO. However, I do not know of any good traffic officer who would take action against a recovery vehicle operator who left his engine running at the scene of an accident. They are there to help clear the mess.
The restriction on quitting your private car with the engine running is still in force:
The advent of Runlock changed that as an exemption was written into the legislation. However, that exemption is only for emergency response vehicles. Other vehicles attending the scenes of road traffic accidents do not have that exemption. This rules out recovery vehicles. Vehicles with PTO are usually not left unattended as the operator has to be with the vehicle to control the PTO. However, I do not know of any good traffic officer who would take action against a recovery vehicle operator who left his engine running at the scene of an accident. They are there to help clear the mess.
The restriction on quitting your private car with the engine running is still in force:
Bill.The offence is against S42 of the RTA 1988.
Quitting is dealt with by Regulation 107(1) of The Road Vehicles (Constriction and Use) Regulation 1986 (SI 1986/1078 )
Regulation 107(2)(a). This states that no person shall cause or permit to be on any road any motor vehicle which is not attended by a person duly licensed to drive it unless the engine is stopped and the parking brake is effectively set. Exemptions to the requirements of this Regulation as to the stopping of the engine include a fire brigade vehicle, the engine of which is being used for any fire brigade purpose.
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Hello Bill,
Sorry I have not responded earlier, I have been tucked-up on lots of other things...
Yes, I agree that Reg 107 does show what was in your excerpt. I have looked and noted that I am reading from the same vintage. However, further down, it reads the following shewn in italic-bold-underline......
Leaving motor vehicles unattended
107.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall leave, or cause or permit to be left, on a road a motor vehicle which is not attended by a person licensed to drive it unless the engine is stopped and any parking brake with which the vehicle is required to be equipped is effectively set.
(2) The requirement specified in paragraph (1) as to the stopping of the engine shall not apply in respect of a vehicle—
(a) being used for ambulance, fire brigade or police purposes; or
(b) in such a position and condition as not to be likely to endanger any person or property and engaged in an operation which requires its engine to be used to—
(i) drive machinery forming part of, or mounted on, the vehicle and used for purposes other than driving the vehicle; or
(ii) maintain the electrical power of the batteries of the vehicle at a level required for driving that machinery or apparatus.
(3) In this regulation “parking brake” means a brake fitted to a vehicle in accordance with requirement 16 or 18 in Schedule 3.
Surely that does not make RUNLOCK a facility exclusive to the emergency services ?
Best wishes,
Ian
Sorry I have not responded earlier, I have been tucked-up on lots of other things...
Yes, I agree that Reg 107 does show what was in your excerpt. I have looked and noted that I am reading from the same vintage. However, further down, it reads the following shewn in italic-bold-underline......
Leaving motor vehicles unattended
107.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall leave, or cause or permit to be left, on a road a motor vehicle which is not attended by a person licensed to drive it unless the engine is stopped and any parking brake with which the vehicle is required to be equipped is effectively set.
(2) The requirement specified in paragraph (1) as to the stopping of the engine shall not apply in respect of a vehicle—
(a) being used for ambulance, fire brigade or police purposes; or
(b) in such a position and condition as not to be likely to endanger any person or property and engaged in an operation which requires its engine to be used to—
(i) drive machinery forming part of, or mounted on, the vehicle and used for purposes other than driving the vehicle; or
(ii) maintain the electrical power of the batteries of the vehicle at a level required for driving that machinery or apparatus.
(3) In this regulation “parking brake” means a brake fitted to a vehicle in accordance with requirement 16 or 18 in Schedule 3.
Surely that does not make RUNLOCK a facility exclusive to the emergency services ?
Best wishes,
Ian
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