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what is going on with timing tensioner roller quality ?

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Re: Wow Ben . Did you read all the opinions expressed in the

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johnnyfd wrote:last page and a half or so about the expelled grease ? Your statement is a direct contradiction to almost all of them and if I believed it this would negate all the reassuring knowledge I have gained from them :(
Alright. I may have just been getting tired of debating the issue.
I don't think I was contradictory to myself as much as to some other statements. A leaking Tensioner is definitely unacceptable. A bearing seal, I do not believe I would trust so much either, as to discuss how much it may or may not be leaking.

Second guessing is great unless it leaves you stranded.
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about what kind of outcomes result from these situations and I think it's been a pretty fruitful discussion considering how much experience and knowledge has been shared hear about it . Putting together all the information from this long thread bares some pretty strong conclusions about consistent outcomes in this kind of situation . That's a pretty big benefit for people like me who haven't had the opportunity to figure it out from direct experience . It's a great feeling to be able to make a judgement call for something so critical with a good amount of confidence . Anyone can say just replace it in this situation , but judging by the wealth of experience provided on this board , it sounds like you might have a very costly proposition of repeatedly replacing a bearing until you got one that never spun any grease out . And I mean costly time wise or money wise depending on whether or not you doing the work yourself .

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Ben,

- I agree that leaking hydraulic tensioner is a serious issue. If one sees oil leak at the HT, replace the HT ASAP, do not forget the white plastic cap!

- On the issues of grease leaking from pulley bearings: I have seen it all, Volvo, BMW, Honda etc. you name it.
The last time I did the 98 S70 GLT Timing Belt @145K, the factory pulleys lasted 15y/145K w/o any issues. There was however a thin film of grease on the outside, which I assume was present there for the last 15 years.

Anyway, johnnyfd, just relax and periodically check that area, it is easy, only a 13-mm bolt.
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Lol, we are still typing about this. Yes, we are board.

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brands' pullies? I wasn't sure what you meant by "I have seen it all" .

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Four pages in as many of days! I need to go look at my TB change that I did close to 90,000 miles ago and check the grease. Did change everything at that time and the cover has not been removed again. I use this forum to learn and pass on anything I can from what I have learned. What I have gathered is a little loss in some things is OK, but not in others.
Now I will undo that massive 13 mm or 12 mm bolt and check it out. Maybe even take a picture.
I took into consideration the views of this forum on what parts to use in the TB change, and it must of worked.
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Ppl are definetly bored, instead you should Car Audio section and help me with my MP3 delima :D
My wife wants her radio back. I told her to wait, and you guys will help me :D :mrgreen:

See my earlier post, to reiterate, a bit of purge is okay and normal. How do I know? I designed and tested bearings for the auto industry at one point in my career.
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mecheng wrote:
See my earlier post, to reiterate, a bit of purge is okay and normal. How do I know? I designed and tested bearings for the auto industry at one point in my career.
That does it! :D No more lawyering, you guys. mecheng is able to judge and has the final word.
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I honestly believe The answer could be calculated using the same technology we discern the air speed velocity of a north bound swallow carrying a 5 pound coconut.

Would that be an African, of European Swallow?

It is irrelevant.
A 5.oz. bird could not carry a five pound coconut.

No matter how long the runway.
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Hehe. Is lawyering when you lay down the law about something? Some of us do this regularly on MVS :D

I thought it was more to the tune of loitering : the act of remaining in a particular public place for a protracted time without an apparent purpose. :D
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