The thermal switch is like the flame trap on a non turbo, it is best simply removed. It causes more problems than it will prevent.
...Lee
1997 850 glt me4.4 ac compressor won't come on
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Ozark Lee
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Re: 1997 850 glt me4.4 ac compressor won't come on
'94 850 N/A 5 speed
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
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1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
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1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
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1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
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You might want to take a peek at the 850 service manual:
https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/downlo ... vo_850.zip
See the file named ac heater system auto.pdf after you unzip it and use the 2.3l guide. There is a snubber diode in the relay so be careful about polarity.
Positive battery comes from the controller to Pin 86 (Yellow/Gray wire) and ground is sourced from the ECU to Pin 85 (Blue/Black wire) The High pressure switch also feeds the ECU and my guess is that the ECU makes a decision about turning on the relay based on the signal from the high pressure switch. Any schematic you will find has the ECU as a black box and even if you had a schematic of the ECU you really don't have the source code to figure out what conditions cause what actions. The high pressure switch also, via firmware in the ECU, should trigger the engine cooling fan after the pressures come up to normal operating pressures.
My guess at this point, based on your observations, is that you have a bad high pressure switch and it is falsely telling the ECU that the pressure is too high even when the compressor isn't running but once the pressure comes up to normal operating pressure the switch toggles to the pressure OK state and thus holds the relay closed.
Volvo legal got their panties in a wad when we hosted schematics so that is now verboten for me, as a moderator, to post them for you.
...Lee
https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/downlo ... vo_850.zip
See the file named ac heater system auto.pdf after you unzip it and use the 2.3l guide. There is a snubber diode in the relay so be careful about polarity.
Positive battery comes from the controller to Pin 86 (Yellow/Gray wire) and ground is sourced from the ECU to Pin 85 (Blue/Black wire) The High pressure switch also feeds the ECU and my guess is that the ECU makes a decision about turning on the relay based on the signal from the high pressure switch. Any schematic you will find has the ECU as a black box and even if you had a schematic of the ECU you really don't have the source code to figure out what conditions cause what actions. The high pressure switch also, via firmware in the ECU, should trigger the engine cooling fan after the pressures come up to normal operating pressures.
My guess at this point, based on your observations, is that you have a bad high pressure switch and it is falsely telling the ECU that the pressure is too high even when the compressor isn't running but once the pressure comes up to normal operating pressure the switch toggles to the pressure OK state and thus holds the relay closed.
Volvo legal got their panties in a wad when we hosted schematics so that is now verboten for me, as a moderator, to post them for you.
...Lee
'94 850 N/A 5 speed
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
Previous:
1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
1999 V70XC - RIP - Wrecked Parts Car.
1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
Previous:
1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
1999 V70XC - RIP - Wrecked Parts Car.
1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe
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There is no need for a dealer.
Just take the car to a good ac service shop.
Just take the car to a good ac service shop.
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS
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I think I would try to jumper the Blue/Black wire at the A/C relay (Pin 85) to ground and see what happens. Perhaps a harness issue between the ECU and the A/C relay is causing the negative side of the relay to not pull all the way to ground potential.
...Lee
...Lee
'94 850 N/A 5 speed
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
Previous:
1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
1999 V70XC - RIP - Wrecked Parts Car.
1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
Previous:
1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
1999 V70XC - RIP - Wrecked Parts Car.
1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe
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erikv11 wrote:Is there r134a pressure in the system now, or did it all leak out?
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
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