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95 850T RMS installed 3/16 deep: Ruined or OK?

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95 850T RMS installed 3/16 deep: Ruined or OK?

Post by 850TurboTurtle »

I installed a new Rear Main Seal while doing a tranny swap. But I think I got carried away trying to get it even and ended up pretty deep. I'd say just under 3/16. Definitely less than 1/4".

So, is this likely to cause it to fail, or no big deal?

From the front:
RMS deep 1.jpg
From the side. Loop of metal to give estimate of how deep it is.
the loop is 9/16" diameter.
RMS deep 2 side.jpg

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Post by tryingbe »

Way too deep. Discard, buy new and replace. I only use Volvo rear main seal.
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Post by 850TurboTurtle »

Thank you trying bee.

So should it be flush or slightly recessed?

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T Turtle,
I'm following this thread with intense interest because I will soon be doing this (engine is ready to be lifted from the car). Probably you are following wheelsup's excellent tutorial for engine/trans removal.
https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... =1&t=28973

His pics of the old seal appear to show it sitting inset about 1.5mm or just to the depth of the taper around the inside edge of the crankcase. That's how I've found other seals to be situated--for example rear cam or output shaft seals. I've installed output shaft seals flush with no problem, but they are thicker and have more edge to engage the outer surrounding surface.

It seems the key to installation is to work them in in a gradual fashion so as not to let them get started going crooked which is hard to set right without going too deep. This RMS is mission critical to the whole job, so starting over with a new seal like tryingbe said would be the only way I would have peace about putting it all back together. Good luck.

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Post by tryingbe »

850TurboTurtle wrote:Thank you trying bee.

So should it be flush or slightly recessed?
That much.

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Post by 850TurboTurtle »

thank you. New seal going in tonight. I'll let you know how it goes. :-)
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Post by taxi »

Hi!
I think I hammered my RMS in as deep as it could go, and I had no issues after the change. But maybe I got lucky?
I'm no expert, so if anyone can explain what would be wrong I'd appreciate it!

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Post by abscate »

As long as the lip is making contact with the shaft surface it should seal.
There is no way I would leave one in beyond spec given that you have to take the engine out to fix though.
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Post by dosbricks »

So 850TT, how did it go this time? Any tips/tricks for getting this seal recessed correctly?
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