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'96 850R won't communicate with ECU

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1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

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Re: '96 850R won't communicate with ECU

Post by erikv11 »

I see.

In the US there were no chipped 850s ever, in fact no chipped keys on P80 before 1999.

Well unless you have some information about how to check the "k-line" it seems much, much easier to next check if the LED gadget can talk to the ECU. If yes then probably the issue is the scanner(s), if no then OP will want to track down why not (and "k-line" is one possibility).
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
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'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
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Post by misha »

If i remember correctly....pin7 from obdII(white wire) to pin B36 on ecu.
I would remove neg.battery cable and ecu from it's housing and then check for continuity with a digital multimeter set on beep signal.
Need to check wiring diagram but i'm 99% sure that's it.
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Post by erikv11 »

Good stuff, ok I am getting it. OP can also find this info from a good wiring diagram.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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Post by JimConley »

Thanks guys. I will break out the multimeter and check the k line. I will also be building the obd2 tester this week as well. Hopefully it isn't a broken k line! Would that require a new ecu or will it be a different wire in the car somewhere?

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Post by misha »

If "k-line" is broken somewhere...it's broken,new ecu will not help.
The only solution would be a "k-line" recovery.
Did you tried to communicate with other modules in the car like abs,transmission,immo2?You will need vol-fcr or a dealership for this.
If scanner won't communicate ONLY with ecu,you can run a separate line directly from pin7 obdII to ecu b36.
Regular/universal scanners will not communicate with anything but ecu.For every other module in the car you will need special scan tool like vol-fcr,at least.
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

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Post by erikv11 »

Many consumer scanners can communicate with SRS and TCU, for example Autel EU702, some of the other Autel models can I know but I stopped trying to keep up with that topic.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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