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1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
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Re: '93 850 Dies During Idle

Post by Sommerfeldt »

I see what you mean, misha, but you have the terms a little mixed up, that's all.

OEM is the manufacturer, not the part itself. The part is the OE (that's why the "OEM part" example above has to be seen together with the rest of the text - the part is from an OEM, but it's not in a blue box, for instance).

It's "Original Equipment Manufacturer", not Original Manufacturer Equipment. For our Volvos (and never mind that I used BMW as an example up there - the terms are the same):

OEM = Original equipment manufacurer
OEM part = Parts from the original manufacturer who has a contract with Volvo.
OE = the parts the Volvo left the Volvo factory with (i.e. parts from the OEM, installed by Volvo)
AFTERMARKET = Parts that will fit the Volvo, but were NOT manufactured by an OEM.

Just to clear one thing up - if you buy an O2 sensor from a Volvo dealer, in the blue box, and you buy one from a Bosch Service shop... which one would be more expensive? My bet is that the blue box is gonna cost you. So an OEM part (the Bosch sensor, bought at the Bosch Service shop) will be cheaper than the OE sensor (the Bosch sensor, bought in a blue box at the Volvo dealer).

So we basically all agree, sort of. :lol:

You're right to say that trusting the letters "OE" on a box is a mistake. Like I said, those Murray thermostats may be OE for another car brand, and to that brand, Murray might then be the OEM, but not for our Volvos. It's a damn jungle, man. :lol:

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Post by misha »

That's the whole point. ;)
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Post by Samusai »

Update! Good news too :D

Car parts came in today, so I was able to get my new Volvo branded coolant temp sensor installed. Pulling out the old one it also was Volvo branded. Topped off the coolant, fired her up, and same dying issue. So even though this didn't fix my problem I feel better knowing that I now have a brand new sensor.

Luckily for me I took a chance and also ordered a new Bosch MAF sensor. Plugged this sucker in and immediately the car ran much, much better and it never died! So it looks like JimBee hit the nail on the head when he said his '93 did a similar thing. I felt so confident in the car, I took it for a drive around the neighborhood and all was well. If everything goes well after a few more test drives I'll get it inspected and back on the road.

Thanks for the help all! Even if we did get off topic there for a bit :lol:

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Post by JimBee »

Although I suspected it was the problem, I put off replacing the MAF for a while because of the cost. Finally got one from the junk yard and it still runs well on it.

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Post by abscate »

There should be a good way of diagnosing the MAF without tons of equipment. A lot of codes point to it but there are too many $100 gambles on this part.
My good scanner reads the air flow from the MAF signal which is probably as good as it gets.
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Post by Samusai »

If this car were newer then yes, I believe that using a scan tool with live data could help diagnose a bad MAF. Unfortunately, my car is pre-OBDII so all I get is a blinking light to read data from the computer.
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