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850 turn signal switch replacement

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Re: 850 turn signal switch replacement

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I have a $1M dollar question: can the hazard switch (located below the Radio) fail in such a way that the hazard function works (all 4 lights at 4 corners blinking) but the "Turn Signal" function inside the hazard switch fails?
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cn90 wrote: 16 Apr 2017, 20:28 I have a $1M dollar question: can the hazard switch (located below the Radio) fail in such a way that the hazard function works (all 4 lights at 4 corners blinking) but the "Turn Signal" function inside the hazard switch fails?
Absolutely - It's hands down the most common way that they fail.
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Post by Teddy1975 »

With all electronics inside the hazard lights switch, I'd say yes.

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I've got a bunch of free ones as Evan paid me a free one forward. Pm me and I'll find and ship

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Thanks abscate, I have a junk yard nearby, I will go there today and pick up BOTH the turn signal assembly + the hazard switch.
Thanks for the offer though!

The posts by BEJinFbk and Teddy1975 seem to contradict each other.

My review of the electrical diagram shows that:

Battery ---> Ignition Switch ---> Fuse #27 ---> Hazard Switch ---> Turn Signal Stalk ---> R or L turn signal lights.
YELLOW arrows show the path from battery ---> Turn Signal lights.


See diagram below:

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Post by Teddy1975 »

cn90 wrote: 17 Apr 2017, 07:11 The posts by BEJinFbk and Teddy1975 seem to contradict each other.
I'm not sure why, you'd think so. I'm fully agreeing with BEJ :)

As you say, the power runs through the hazard switch assembly on the way to the signal lights with a branch out to the turn signal stalk. So a problem with the circuit board in the hazard switch can cut the flow of power to the stalk = turn signal not working while hazards work fine.

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Post by cn90 »

Teddy1975,

I am thinking problem with Connector 24/13, yellow arrow ---> Turn Signal Stalk.
This explains my symptoms.

This is b/c if you look at the Hazard Switch, the power supply for the hazard switch and the wire (GN-R) that feed the Turn Signal is the same.
So the "break" has to be downstream of the hazard switch.
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Thanks to jblackburn, he just updated the other thread, the problem (per jblackburn) was the Ignition Switch.

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Post by erikv11 »

Wow, you already fixed it? Now *that* was fast!

Was it the original electrical portion, or had you changed it already?
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you need advanced equipment to test the turn signal switch - see here
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