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Key wouldn't turn, got car started, steering wheel locked

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Ezbme2003
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Re: Key wouldn't turn, got car started, steering wheel locked

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RickHaleParker wrote: 27 Dec 2017, 16:16 I would get a different lock from a pick and pull then, swap the tumbler so the key does not need to be reprogrammed.
Details please. Swap tumbler from what, my car?

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I am wondering if this will work, could be a quick and easy fix. I wonder if it is a problem that my key will not move out of the 0 position, his was in the 1 position. Any thoughts?


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I had an ignition problem in the past.

The reason your car is stuck in park is the neutral safety switch. There is a black cable running into you ignition switch. When you turn the key the cable pushes the neutral safety switch in your center console connected to your gear shift. If you disconnect the cable terminated by the yellow clip you will be able to shift the car. To disconnect just unsnap the cable from the holder just behind the spring.
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The reason your steering wheel is stuck is your ignition has a steering wheel lock. Drill out the bolts holding the ignition switch and the wheel lock won't be an issue. The steering lock is that dark grey tab in the middle.
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I went with a new ignition from Volvo coded to your VIN. It was $300 but once replaced the old still keys worked. Before it arrived I removed the ignition, disconnected the neutral safety cable. Held a key to the antenna and turn the ignition like you described from the back. The car will start, you will be able to steer, and you can shift. I do not recommend this as a permanent solution, both are safety features.

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Post by velorider »

My previous suggestion was a work around until you address the ignition switch issue. Follow the above advice to temporally get your car running without breaking anything. No hammering!

I did not try to fix my ignition switch, I figured a lock smith would cost at least $200 and a new ignition lock are $274 at eeuroparts.com. A cheaper option if you can find one is a used ignition lock with keys and replace it. You will need the chip from inside your old key, so following these steps to swap it:

https://andrewpeng.net/cars/2006-volvo- ... key-repair

Order this from ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remote-Case-Fl ... 2749.l2649

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velorider wrote: 28 Dec 2017, 01:24 I had an ignition problem in the past.

The reason your car is stuck in park is the neutral safety switch. There is a black cable running into you ignition switch. When you turn the key the cable pushes the neutral safety switch in your center console connected to your gear shift. If you disconnect the cable terminated by the yellow clip you will be able to shift the car. To disconnect just unsnap the cable from the holder just behind the spring.

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The reason your steering wheel is stuck is your ignition has a steering wheel lock. Drill out the bolts holding the ignition switch and the wheel lock won't be an issue. The steering lock is that dark grey tab in the middle.

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I went with a new ignition from Volvo coded to your VIN. It was $300 but once replaced the old still keys worked. Before it arrived I removed the ignition, disconnected the neutral safety cable. Held a key to the antenna and turn the ignition like you described from the back. The car will start, you will be able to steer, and you can shift. I do not recommend this as a permanent solution, both are safety features.
Thank you! I will be going out in the snow today to try to take care of this... at least I can run the car and heater, it is in single digits...

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Velorider, how do i get the cover off of the console to gain access to the NS cable?

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So, after messing with this for days, off and on (it's been averaging about 15 degrees as the high), I got the dremel cut off wheels and went out to start the car and the screwdriver in the ignition switch would turn on everything, but not start it.

I tried the key, it now turns! Hooked ignition switch back up and car starts, steering unlocks, and I had already disabled neutral switch. Weird...

I think I will go ahead and cut a notch into those miserable shear bolts to prevent being stranded. I buggered up one of them already using what I guess was a chisel that I sharpened too sharp... I started to cut a piece off when I attempted to rotate the shear bolt.

I must say, I give a massive kudos to all of you who have helped out, both here and in all the helpful threads on this site.

I started with a blank WTF look on my face when this happened. Now I feel like I have a grasp on it and am looking into what else can I fix, with confidence!!
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Are those the cool torx bolts that snap off the heads when they tighten?

I need to,put 8 of those in Wizechatmgr ‘s toolboxes as a prank..

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abscate wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 10:53 Are those the cool torx bolts that snap off the heads when they tighten?

I need to,put 8 of those in Wizechatmgr ‘s toolboxes as a prank..

:D
Great prank, and yes they are! :shock:

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