SAS pump resistance

Post by **MrAl** » 28 Mar 2018, 07:20

Hello again,

When i went for inspection they checked to see if the air pump was actually THERE. They marked it with a yellow marker. That makes me wonder if some inspection stations know of the delete and dont want to let owners get away with it, even though it is not harmful to the environment when taken as a whole over years of operation. They TRUST the car manufacturer more than the science behind this nutty scheme.

But back to the pump at hand...

NOTES RELATE TO MY v70 1998 and so may not apply to your car...

IF the armature can not turn then that could mean that the check valve leaked. That would mean that the check valve has to be replaced as well as the pump if you cant get it to turn anymore. If you dont replace the check valve too, the new pump will fail after a short time.
Again this was the case for my v70 1998 and others here would know better than me if your car also has a check valve.
In fact, for my car they always say to change the check valve whenever the pump is changed.

Hope you have some luck getting it going again...

WhatAmIDoing · Post by **WhatAmIDoing** » 28 Mar 2018, 10:53

You can always leave it all installed, install the diode, and leave the pump unplugged until inspection. I highly doubt they will pull your ecu to check.

Trust the manufacturer...? Hmm, because the manufacture would do nothing to cheat emissions. Right, Volks.... oh nevermind.

Post by **mkc1** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:06

Good points all. In Ontario, if repairs cost more than $460, you can get a "conditional pass" without doing them, but only for 2 years. I think I'll try to do that -- I think the repair is likely to be more than $460 (unless it's the connection to the ECU or maybe the relay instead of the pump itself) and that'll give me 2 more years to decide what to do.

At this age, I'm never sure which repair is going to be the last. Early last year, it cost me 3K to get it bent back into shape after it was rear-ended, then in November another 3K or so for brakes, CV axles, and a wheel bearing. I'm not sure how many more of those it's reasonable to do, although for 6K, what would I likely be able to get that's as reliable and safe in an accident?

Thanks again to everyone for all the input!

Post by **MrAl** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:21

WhatAmIDoing wrote: ↑28 Mar 2018, 10:53 You can always leave it all installed, install the diode, and leave the pump unplugged until inspection. I highly doubt they will pull your ecu to check.

Trust the manufacturer...? Hmm, because the manufacture would do nothing to cheat emissions. Right, Volks.... oh nevermind.

Hi there,

I hope you didnt mean that "I" trust the manufacturer, i meant that the gov must trust the manufacturer more than the science behind such a scheme for what little it does. They may have no room for a little wiggle when it comes to emissions. They want to believe the manufacturer just so they dont have to do any more work themselves like to verify anything.
Sorry if i did not make that clear.

I would bet that a single cigarette puts out more emissions than a v70 when cold even without the SAS pump

WhatAmIDoing · Post by **WhatAmIDoing** » 28 Mar 2018, 23:04

MrAl wrote: ↑28 Mar 2018, 18:21
WhatAmIDoing wrote: ↑28 Mar 2018, 10:53 You can always leave it all installed, install the diode, and leave the pump unplugged until inspection. I highly doubt they will pull your ecu to check.

Trust the manufacturer...? Hmm, because the manufacture would do nothing to cheat emissions. Right, Volks.... oh nevermind.
Hi there,

I hope you didnt mean that "I" trust the manufacturer, i meant that the gov must trust the manufacturer more than the science behind such a scheme for what little it does. They may have no room for a little wiggle when it comes to emissions. They want to believe the manufacturer just so they dont have to do any more work themselves like to verify anything.
Sorry if i did not make that clear.

I would bet that a single cigarette puts out more emissions than a v70 when cold even without the SAS pump

Hello,

I understood what you said completely. I was making a joke at governments' expense, not yours. I'm sorry the target of my joke was not clear. I meant no offense to you.

I would be willing to bet the manufacturing of the SAS system produced more pollution than the SAS pump would prevent over its lifetime.

Post by **MrAl** » 29 Mar 2018, 05:50

Hi,

That's an interesting viewpoint too

And all the heartache it must have caused over the years is hard to measure. The phrase, "Class Action Lawsuit", comes to mind

I have to wonder if that has ever been brought up before. If some company makes something that doesnt actually do anything they can be sued for fraud for one thing if they sell it.

Post by **abscate** » 29 Mar 2018, 09:11

If some company makes something that doesnt actually do anything they can be sued for fraud for one thing if they sell it.

How did you get a copy of our product roadmap???

Post by **erikv11** » 29 Mar 2018, 09:46

MrAl wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 05:50 ... If some company makes something that doesnt actually do anything they can be sued for fraud for one thing if they sell it.

And, I have a bridge you may be interested in. With great views!

Post by **MrAl** » 29 Mar 2018, 12:08

Hi,

Ha ha. If it is a bridge over troubled waters maybe i could use it

Hope it's not a walk bridge in Texas though

Very sad.

Post by **mkc1** » 02 Apr 2018, 08:32

Well, that was interesting. I just got back from Canadian Tire. Apparently for vehicles older than 1998, they only check emissions from the tailpipe, so it didn't matter that the code for the SAS pump was thrown. Wish I'd known that earlier! https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-drive-c ... -test-done

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