Timing belt questions

Post by **abscate** » 25 Sep 2018, 18:14

mrjay62 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2018, 16:13 Hi abscate.
You sure its called Five rivers? Coming up with cleaning services?

Or are you pulling my leg like everyone saids u like to do...lol

Not seeing anything useful? .

Thanks
Jay

User name. She cleaned up a V70 head so clean you could do brain surgery on it

mrjay62 · Post by **mrjay62** » 25 Sep 2018, 18:36

Oh Oh Ooooh.... lol

I think I got it as clean as can for 2 bucks.... and an hour of wire brushing.

Post by **SuperHerman** » 25 Sep 2018, 19:26

If you have a pressure washer give it a blasting. Any crud will act like a magnet for more crud. Apparently crud likes company.

Did you take out the lifters, springs and valves? Some of those parts could rust - I know the cam should be cleaned and then oiled to prevent flash rust. If you have the valve stem seals in there - not sure how they like the oven cleaner.

Taking the valve keeper out and replacing them is the hardest part of valve lapping. Otherwise it is mindless work - best with a game on (baseball works best on the radio, but college football on the radio is also very good) to pass the time.

Costs for lapping equipment is under $20 for tool and paste. Valve spring compressor another issue, but there are clever work arounds. If you have the valve stem seals, do the total top end refresh. The bottom end is very robust. Good for another 100k plus when the TB comes up again.

Are you going to sand the bottom of the head or have it milled?

mrjay62 · Post by **mrjay62** » 25 Sep 2018, 19:48

Hi...
Only done the valve cover and cams.... Dont see to many places for crud to hide...I dried everything with compressed air and sprayed it all down with WD-40 and wrapped it in plastic.
This Budget repair If can get away without any shop work thats the route I want to go....
Ill look into the valve stem seal replacement, they come with the head gasket kit....

Post by **SuperHerman** » 25 Sep 2018, 22:34

I found a valve spring compressor similar to this one: https://www.otctools.com/products/large ... compressor used on Craigslist. May be worth a look to find a used one. I found this easier to use than the my other unit which bolts to the head because keeping the valves closed all the way and holding the handle to compress was work.

Maybe you can use one of those Irwin squeeze clamps in a large size and purchase a six inch piece of black pipe and cut a slot in it. The cheap squeeze clamps don't work very well.

My brother brought his VW head to a machine shop and they charged him $2 a valve stem seal - so I think it was $40. He hand lapped the valves with my tools and had a fresh head for cheap. Lapping does both the valve seat and valve at the same time.

Just throwing out ideas so you don't kick yourself in the future

mrjay62 · Post by **mrjay62** » 25 Sep 2018, 22:45

Thanks... Any ideas or thoughts that help are appreciated.
The hand lapping tool and compounds are cheap enough, and the process looks like I can handle it...
Advance auto has a loaner tool .https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/pow ... uilt+tools
Do you think that one would work. Or I can pick it up tomorrow and check/Try it out.

Permatex 80036 Valve Grinding Compound, 1.5 oz.
Performance Tool W86552 2-Piece Valve Lapper Set
Permatex 81950 Ultra Slick Engine Assembly Lube, 4 oz.
Volvo Cylinder Head Gasket Set - Reinz 023697003
Permatex Anaerobic Gasket Maker - Permatex 51813
Volvo Cylinder Head Bolt - Reinz 6842347

Post by **abscate** » 25 Sep 2018, 22:55

Jay....I bumped 5Rivers thread in the other forum , forgot you were in P2.

mrjay62 · Post by **mrjay62** » 25 Sep 2018, 23:04

Ok? I dont know what that means but ill take your word its all good...
I think this car is a Ponme.!

Post by **SuperHerman** » 25 Sep 2018, 23:14

Not sure if that tool will work. I cannot find any information or pictures of it being used. Cannot hurt to go look at it. Maybe bring the head with you. Your concerns are 1) Is the tool large enough to handle the head, 2) will it clear the head to get to the recessed valves and 3) does it stay compressed and provide access to reinstall the keepers. It has an attachment which may address this.

Removing the valve keepers and then the springs and valve are the easy part. The hard part is getting the keepers back on - for this you need the tool to stay in place and provide you access. With the right tool the job is fairly easy

Maybe watch some videos so you get a good idea of the process if you have concerns. Plenty of videos out there - most cars use the same set up with little variation. This one will give you a good idea:

If it works, take some pictures of it in use and post them.

mrjay62 · Post by **mrjay62** » 25 Sep 2018, 23:35

Thanks again SuperHerman.

I been watching utube and the right tool is the key, in the video you sent I think he said they built or made the end part to reach the keepers?
To start ill check out the one at advance auto,there mins away and its a loaner tool...
Hate the idea of buying a tool for one use..

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