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Help, Advice, Owners' Discussion and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's stylish, distinctive P2 platform cars sold as model years 2001-2007 (North American market year designations).

2001 - 2007 V70
2001 - 2004 V70 XC (Cross Country)
2004 - 2007 XC70 (Cross Country)
2001 - 2009 S60
2003 - 2007 S60 R
2004 - 2007 V70 R

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notny41
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Gotcha! I was just going to ask how the turbo could put oil into the cylinders which didn't seem likely or possible, but now this makes sense that it isn't putting oil into the cylinders it is possibly putting oil into the exhaust.

Are those seals very hard to replace? I bought a set off ebay for it. They were cheap (OEM volvo parts) but the labor to put them on is going to be the expensive part. Unless it is possible for a fairly mechanically inclined bloke like myself to be able to do it.

Anyone done this before on their S60 AWD?

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The turbo has to be removed from the exhaust manifold. I have repalced turbos but never overhauled them. There are rebuilders who do a good job. I have picked up used ones too. Count on spending $250 to $350 for a rebuild and used---maybe less. Just know your used supplier.

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Can a guy just get by with replacing the seals or is that the same as rebuilding it?

How big of a job is it to remove the turbo and put a different one on? Can you do it without removing the notorious "Angle gear" whatever that is?(keep in mind this is an AWD)

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It is not a quick job, but providing it is just a FWD, you do have to take off coolant and oil lines, the air inlet and outlet pipes, coupling to the exhaust , and oil return line. Believe heat shields come off and 4 nuts holding the turbo to the exhaust manifold. Replacing seals is essentially a rebuild. Might want to look at a manual on how-to as there are perhaps things I have forgotten.

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Hmmm. So it is an AWD and I suppose that adds complexity to the whole thing. I wonder if "seals" is the right term for what I have.

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Gasket and o-ring.
'98 S70 T5 Emrld Grn Met/Beige Tons of Upgrades Mobil-1
'04 V70 2.5T Red/Taupe Some Upgrades Mobil-1
'07 S40 T5 AWD 6 speed manual! Silver/Black Stage1 Heico & Elevate
'07 S60 2.5T Blue/Taupe- my kid's Volvo

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I'm guessing that means neither are a "seal"...?

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Well, they both are if you want to know the truth.
'98 S70 T5 Emrld Grn Met/Beige Tons of Upgrades Mobil-1
'04 V70 2.5T Red/Taupe Some Upgrades Mobil-1
'07 S40 T5 AWD 6 speed manual! Silver/Black Stage1 Heico & Elevate
'07 S60 2.5T Blue/Taupe- my kid's Volvo

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Agree--the actual turbo seal is inside the turbo, i.e. you need to remove the entire turbo and then you can use your oil return gasket and seal.

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Post by MadeInJapan »

True, the turbo seal is something that is tackled when you rebuild the turbo but the pictures of the items above are installed without removing the turbo. Both are for the oil return line- one (0-ring) is the connection to the sump, the other (gasket) is on the turbo side.
'98 S70 T5 Emrld Grn Met/Beige Tons of Upgrades Mobil-1
'04 V70 2.5T Red/Taupe Some Upgrades Mobil-1
'07 S40 T5 AWD 6 speed manual! Silver/Black Stage1 Heico & Elevate
'07 S60 2.5T Blue/Taupe- my kid's Volvo

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