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Safe Boost Limits By Engine Chart

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Post by callahanoffroad »

Hello friends!

I was pondering what the safe turbo boost limits for each model were and it lead me to doing a little bit of math on everyone's behalf so that you can have an actual reference chart to go by.

I have calculated the Effective Compression Ratio (ECR) of the three available P80 Volvo Engines: 2.4L Naturally Aspirated, 2.4L Low Pressure Turbo, and 2.3L High Pressure Turbo. These numbers would be correct for any 5 cylinder Volvo engine.

This chart does not take into account tuning tricks like running lean to heat the mixture or running rich to cool the mixture. The optimum turbo efficiency or turbo heat output. It is just a general chart for quick reference.

If you'd like to do your own math here is the formula:

Square Root of: ((Boost Pressure in LBS + 14.7) / 14.7) * Compression Ratio = ECR

The Max Safe ECR for US Gas is as Follows:

91 Octane 12.1:1
93 Octane 12.5:1

2.4L Naturally Aspirated Turbo
Before I begin this one, I do want to say that it is mathematically possible to turbocharge a N/A car using a LPT setup.
Stock Piston Compression Ratio and ECR = 10.5:1

4lbs of Boost = 11.84 ECR
5lbs of Boost = 12.15 ECR
6lbs of Boost = 12.46 ECR
7lbs of Boost = 12.75 ECR (not safe without tuning)

2.4L Low Pressure Turbo
Stock Piston Compression Ratio = 9.0:1
Stock Boost = 6 psi
Stock ECR = 10.67
8lbs of Boost = 11.19 ECR
10lbs of Boost = 11.66 ECR
12lbs of Boost = 12.13 ECR
13lbs of Boost = 12.36 ECR
14lbs of Boost = 12.58 ECR (borderline unsafe/unsafe without tuning)

2.3L High Pressure Turbo/T5/R
Stock Piston Compression Ratio = 8.5:1
Stock Boost = 9.7lbs
Stock ECR = 11.33:1

12lbs = 11.45 ECR
13lbs = 11.67 ECR
14lbs = 11.87 ECR
15lbs = 12.09 ECR
16lbs = 12.29 ECR
17lbs = 12.48 ECR
18lbs = 12.68 ECR (not safe without tuning)

These are purely mathematical figures they assume a 14.7:1 air fuel ratio and as I stated before do not take into consideration temperature, altitude, superior intercooling, lower operating temperature, tuning for a rich environment to lower detonation temperatures, timing tricks, etc. Another interesting aspect that I have not calculated here is Effective Dynamic Compression Ratio, which can actually lower these numbers significantly. But again this is a really good back of the hand chart to go by. :D

What's most interesting is the definitive proof that lower compression ratio motors can handle extra boost and will inherently make more power at the higher boost levels as a result. Hope this helps anyone who is wondering how much boost they can safely run in their motor!
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Post by erikv11 »

This is why several years ago I dropped T5 tune-injectors-turbo into my V70 GLT (contains 2.4 LPT engine from the factory)!
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'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
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Post by bmdubya1198 »

Great info here. I'm still thinking about boosting my S90. More so now that I know it runs and drive as well as it does...
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Post by TheSymbiosis »

Hi callahanoffroad

I found your post when searching for stock info and possible turbo boosting options, well done!
I have an XC70 (2002) with a 2.4L engine (200hp), I believe with the low pressure turbo.

The car is doing a major maintenance (300.000 km’s), and when measuring the turbo it gave a result of around 400Mbar (confirming the 6 psi of stock boost you mentioned).
I would like to give a slight boost to it (the 10 or 12lbs of boost sounds good for my needs); tried to make the math using your formula, but got lost along the way… =)

Could you tell me how much would the PSI be for the 10lbs and the 12lbs boost please?

Thanks, big help with this, much appreciated!

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Everyone keep in mind the other engine limits of thin piston walls and connecting rod bending.
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