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Re: 1986 Volvo 244 DL, Everything is dying.

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volvolugnut wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 08:27 Then the drag increase is square of 120 MPH and 100 MPH. 14,400 divided by 10,000 is 1.44 or 44% increase in drag.
I'm not sure that the rate of energy loss is proportional to drag but it is a reasonable assumption. All the other factors should be constants. Substitute 1 for the constants then the ratio of 120²/100² = 1.44.

The energy lost due to drag = Fdrag⋅displacement. To check your assumption, you would need to calculate the drag for each speed, know the displacement, calculate the energy lost each speed, then get the ratio.

I do think you are on the correct path. Another equation states: The power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity. Image


What surprised me is Drag and Kinetic energy increased at the same rate. Kinetic energy would increase 44% if there was no drag. Then again it is expected if all the other variables can be substituted with 1.

Kinetic energy = 1/2 * Mass * Velocity² .
Ke 100 = 1/2 * M * 100²
Ke 120 = 1/2 * M * 120²

(0.5 * M * 100²) / (0.5 * M * 120²) =
(0.5/0.5) * (M/M) * (100²/120²) =
1 * 1 * 100²/120² =
100²/120²

Same ratio you got in the drag equation.
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Per the equation directly above, almost 75% more power to go from 100 MPH to 120 MPH

(120/100)³ = 1.728
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