Vida CEM swapping
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T5Luke
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Re: Vida CEM swapping
The CEM reads the transponder and if transponder is valid it comunicates with ECM. An idea would be to turn the transponder check routine into a false positive or always positive check routine to allow always starting.
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MaxDenisov
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I already have cut the blade of new key and ready for sw config. Just mentioned above that I am a bit lazy to remove CEM from the car to use Xprog or other solutions for eeprom editing.
Better to find OBDii soluton
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Have you checked with your local locksmith? ID48 transponders can be cloned. The CEM would not be able to tell one clone from the other.
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1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
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vtl
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If I remember correctly, our ID48 has an actual (semi)random key that is locked. There was a research paper a few years ago that most of Megamos Cryptos can be hijacked because of dumb and lazy automotive vendors, but Volvo was not affected. IIRC.RickHaleParker wrote: ↑31 Mar 2021, 16:20 Have you checked with your local locksmith? ID48 transponders can be cloned. The CEM would not be able to tell one clone from the other.
Also I want to be able to start my car with just a screwdriver. I take it to places where any help is days away, so need a car in the most reliable shape as it can be. Security-schmecurity...
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Cannot be:
Our first attack, which comprises all vehicles using
Megamos Crypto, exploits the following weaknesses.
• The transponder lacks a pseudo-random number
generator, which makes the authentication protocol
vulnerable to replay attacks.
A collaboration between Radboud University Nijmegen, The Netherlands and University of Birmingham, UK. Research paper is Here.
"Our third attack is based on the following observation.
Many of the keys that we recovered using the previous
attack had very low entropy and exhibit a well defined
pattern, i.e., the first 32 bits of the key are all zeros. This
attack consists of a time-memory trade-off that exploits
this weakness to recover the secret key, within a fewminutes,
from two authentication traces. This attack requires
storage of a 1.5 terabyte rainbowtable."
I take that Volvo is one that did not reduce the 96bit key to 64bits and issue the keys in a well defined pattern. This might be your "(semi) random key" .
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1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
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MaxDenisov
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any success on sbl?
Just found Volha Bordyk study : https://publications.lib.chalmers.se/re ... 156295.pdf
Just found Volha Bordyk study : https://publications.lib.chalmers.se/re ... 156295.pdf
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MaxDenisov
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