Steve,
Based on the failure experienced by me and others I would estimate that the probability of failure for the Anti drain valve is about the same as the probability of failure for the Heat Exchanger.
I haven't experienced the Heat Exchanger failure but I do replace the coolant every 5 years which should help to delay the failure.
If you get a chance post a picture of your XC70 here and write a short (or long) summary of what you've done for it.
Take care
Paul
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The $10k S80 Challenge
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Paul, not sure I remember the manual interval but I thought it was 36 months/36k for coolant changes.
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ABSCATE,
For the OAT and HOAT coolants the drain interval is longer than it was for the Coolant with less anti corrosion protection.
I checked the Volvo Maintenance documentation and they don't list a change interval (only that the owner should check it)
For Land Rover with the Volvo Engine the Change interval is listed as Every 10 years. Note: for items that Land Rover didn't want to provide guidance they just wrote every 10 years. (i.e. Coolant, PTU Fluid, ATF, Manual Trans fluid, Rear Differential all at 10 years)
I replace all of these items sooner than 10 years.
For the Coolant I recommend using a 5 year interval (but a 3 year interval is also reasonable).
Here is the Land Rover information
Unfortunately the manufacturers recommendations are focused on the Warranty period and not focused on the customer that intend to keep their vehicles for 20 years or more.
Thanks
Paul
PS: looking up this information I also discovered the Volvo Oil Volume supplement that changed the Volume for the Six Cylinder Engine (Non Turbo) from 7.8 US Quarts to 8.3 US Quarts
For my last oil change I put in 8.0 Quarts. I may need to add a little more. Note: Volvo did change the dipstick as part of a service bulletin for certain MY due to oil consumption. So at 8.3 Quarts it may seem a bit high if you have the old dipstick.
For the OAT and HOAT coolants the drain interval is longer than it was for the Coolant with less anti corrosion protection.
I checked the Volvo Maintenance documentation and they don't list a change interval (only that the owner should check it)
For Land Rover with the Volvo Engine the Change interval is listed as Every 10 years. Note: for items that Land Rover didn't want to provide guidance they just wrote every 10 years. (i.e. Coolant, PTU Fluid, ATF, Manual Trans fluid, Rear Differential all at 10 years)
I replace all of these items sooner than 10 years.
For the Coolant I recommend using a 5 year interval (but a 3 year interval is also reasonable).
Here is the Land Rover information
Unfortunately the manufacturers recommendations are focused on the Warranty period and not focused on the customer that intend to keep their vehicles for 20 years or more.
Thanks
Paul
PS: looking up this information I also discovered the Volvo Oil Volume supplement that changed the Volume for the Six Cylinder Engine (Non Turbo) from 7.8 US Quarts to 8.3 US Quarts
For my last oil change I put in 8.0 Quarts. I may need to add a little more. Note: Volvo did change the dipstick as part of a service bulletin for certain MY due to oil consumption. So at 8.3 Quarts it may seem a bit high if you have the old dipstick.
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MVS Readers,
I drove to Southern California from the Bay Area and back again.
Because it was going to be a long trip we took the Volvo.
Each way was about 380 miles and the S80 accomplished it on a single tank of gas each way.
The speed was too high for good fuel economy but it was still respectable, about 25 MPG at 70 to 80 MPH. Driving at 60 MPH would have likely resulted in something very close to 30 MPG. Which isn't bad at all for a large comfortable car with a six cylinder gas engine.
And the S80 is so nice for a long drive (in this example over 5 hours of driving each way)
I don't drive this far very often but when I do I realize why I bought the S80 and why it was absolutely the right decision.
And perhaps the most important part the Repaired AC worked flawlessly. It was 105F outside and 74F inside the car. The Temperature gauge never moved above its normal resting position.
My son is driving the S80 five days a week and he will put on about 10,000 miles over the next 12 months.
So the challenge is back.
Can I keep the vehicle cost under $10,000........
We will see
Take care
Paul
I drove to Southern California from the Bay Area and back again.
Because it was going to be a long trip we took the Volvo.
Each way was about 380 miles and the S80 accomplished it on a single tank of gas each way.
The speed was too high for good fuel economy but it was still respectable, about 25 MPG at 70 to 80 MPH. Driving at 60 MPH would have likely resulted in something very close to 30 MPG. Which isn't bad at all for a large comfortable car with a six cylinder gas engine.
And the S80 is so nice for a long drive (in this example over 5 hours of driving each way)
I don't drive this far very often but when I do I realize why I bought the S80 and why it was absolutely the right decision.
And perhaps the most important part the Repaired AC worked flawlessly. It was 105F outside and 74F inside the car. The Temperature gauge never moved above its normal resting position.
My son is driving the S80 five days a week and he will put on about 10,000 miles over the next 12 months.
So the challenge is back.
Can I keep the vehicle cost under $10,000........
We will see
Take care
Paul
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Robert posted this video on another thread
And it fit the challenge perfectly
The one thing that I disagree with the narrator of the video is the references made to the handling. Driving the S80 on a very smooth road on a very hot day and something German will likely perform better (or maybe even something Italian). But when the weather turns and it starts to rain hard or even snow I know which car I would rather be in. It is in these low grip situations that the balance of the Volvo stands out. And it becomes very obvious that the designers did actually drive in difficult conditions and they designed a car that would work well in those conditions.
The one thing that I did to take advantage of this is to buy Nokian Tires. Because of where I live I didn't have to get snow tires just high performance all season. These tires with the Volvo suspension work very well together.
If you are looking for something to autocross the S80 isn't a good choice.
But if you are looking for something to get you there in comfort and style it is an excellent choice
Take care
Paul
And it fit the challenge perfectly
The one thing that I disagree with the narrator of the video is the references made to the handling. Driving the S80 on a very smooth road on a very hot day and something German will likely perform better (or maybe even something Italian). But when the weather turns and it starts to rain hard or even snow I know which car I would rather be in. It is in these low grip situations that the balance of the Volvo stands out. And it becomes very obvious that the designers did actually drive in difficult conditions and they designed a car that would work well in those conditions.
The one thing that I did to take advantage of this is to buy Nokian Tires. Because of where I live I didn't have to get snow tires just high performance all season. These tires with the Volvo suspension work very well together.
If you are looking for something to autocross the S80 isn't a good choice.
But if you are looking for something to get you there in comfort and style it is an excellent choice
Take care
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Just put on another set of EBC's Friday last week. This time it's the front rotors, front pads and rear pads only for the 03 GS300. Finished around 9:30PM so just took it out and bedded the pads by going up to 50 mph and braking hard half a dozen times. The black coating on the rotor and red coating on the brakes were gone in the process.
Took it to my Son afterwards and the following day he said they are great!
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Hi Paul,
Just put on another set of EBC's Friday last week. This time it's the front rotors, front pads and rear pads only for the 03 GS300. Finished around 9:30PM so just took it out and bedded the pads by going up to 50 mph and braking hard half a dozen times. The black coating on the rotor and red coating on the brakes were gone in the process.
Took it to my Son afterwards and the following day he said they are great!
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MVS Readers,
I have been using EBC brake pads for years and I've been very happy with them.
It looks like Robert is a satisfied customer as well.
I have used this manufacture for several different vehicles.
Thanks for sharing Robert
Take care
Paul
I have been using EBC brake pads for years and I've been very happy with them.
It looks like Robert is a satisfied customer as well.
I have used this manufacture for several different vehicles.
Thanks for sharing Robert
Take care
Paul
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MVS Readers,
It is time for the next item to be refurbished.
I could have gone to the dealer to get it replaced but I suspect that the cost would exceed $1,000 which is is bit too high for a car that I am trying to keep under $10,000.
If I have to I could down grade to a manually operated mirror. Which will likely be plan B if Plan A doesn't work.
Plan A is to get my rear View Mirror refurbished.
The cost including shipping both ways is about $150.
I am not going to disclose the information about the vendor that is fixing my mirror until I get it back in about a week.
Here is what it looked like just before shipping out.
My mirror is very complicated. It has a built in Compass, Auto Dimming, Rain Sensor, and I think a humidity monitor.
I will post the results of the refurbishment here in about a week.
Take care
Paul
It is time for the next item to be refurbished.
I could have gone to the dealer to get it replaced but I suspect that the cost would exceed $1,000 which is is bit too high for a car that I am trying to keep under $10,000.
If I have to I could down grade to a manually operated mirror. Which will likely be plan B if Plan A doesn't work.
Plan A is to get my rear View Mirror refurbished.
The cost including shipping both ways is about $150.
I am not going to disclose the information about the vendor that is fixing my mirror until I get it back in about a week.
Here is what it looked like just before shipping out.
My mirror is very complicated. It has a built in Compass, Auto Dimming, Rain Sensor, and I think a humidity monitor.
I will post the results of the refurbishment here in about a week.
Take care
Paul
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I am curious how this goes for you. I have a 2008 XC70 with the exact same problem. Volvo needs to change suppliers of rear view mirrors. My son's S60 has the same problem but with the P2 if you remove it from the car it will not start due to part of the theft system is in the mirror. That is so smart it is stupid.
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Update,
The mirror is back and it is amazing.
Including shipping the rebuilding did consume 10 days but 2 of those were the weekend. I just wanted to disclose that for anyone interested in doing this.
Was the end result worth the wait?
Absolutely!!!!!!!!!
It is Flawless!!!!!!
Cost $144 for the repair and to ship it back and $12 to ship it there
Total $156
Absolutely worth it
Note: the cost would be $30 less if my mirror didn't have a compass but my mirror also has a light sensor and I think that this sensor would have also cost the extra money. My recommendation is if you are not certain then select the higher priced service and consider the $30 a tip if the Mirror guy didn't have to open a window for a compass or a sensor.
Here is the web site
https://www.radar-mirror.com/product-ca ... or-repair/
The process
1. Select what you want and add to cart
2. Check out and pay and add in the comments that "Paul from MVS Volvo recommended you"
3. Ship your mirror to the address you get on your receipt and include a copy of your receipt in the box
4. Wait about 10 days
5. Enjoy the view of the things behind you
6. Remember " OBJECTS IN THE REVIEW MIRROR MAY APPEAR CLOSER THAN THEY ARE"
Take care
Paul
The mirror is back and it is amazing.
Including shipping the rebuilding did consume 10 days but 2 of those were the weekend. I just wanted to disclose that for anyone interested in doing this.
Was the end result worth the wait?
Absolutely!!!!!!!!!
It is Flawless!!!!!!
Cost $144 for the repair and to ship it back and $12 to ship it there
Total $156
Absolutely worth it
Note: the cost would be $30 less if my mirror didn't have a compass but my mirror also has a light sensor and I think that this sensor would have also cost the extra money. My recommendation is if you are not certain then select the higher priced service and consider the $30 a tip if the Mirror guy didn't have to open a window for a compass or a sensor.
Here is the web site
https://www.radar-mirror.com/product-ca ... or-repair/
The process
1. Select what you want and add to cart
2. Check out and pay and add in the comments that "Paul from MVS Volvo recommended you"
3. Ship your mirror to the address you get on your receipt and include a copy of your receipt in the box
4. Wait about 10 days
5. Enjoy the view of the things behind you
6. Remember " OBJECTS IN THE REVIEW MIRROR MAY APPEAR CLOSER THAN THEY ARE"
Take care
Paul
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