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loveMy850 · Post by **loveMy850** » 26 Oct 2021, 16:47

It may work but that metal to metal crap Yikes! and yep it's a cheepo, but so I'm out 60$ I don't think want Jerry rig it, it's already a do over as it is! Thanks guys for all your post.

Post by **Chuck W** » 26 Oct 2021, 17:01

That is a dead starter. Either it was junk to start, or they ham-fisted the install and damaged that wire.

Mine burnt itself apart when we made a gas stop on a trip. Came out and nada. Not even a click. Luckily it was a manual and we just push started it to complete the trip.

loveMy850 · Post by **loveMy850** » 31 Oct 2021, 18:55

That where that cheepo broke ,sounds like a heck of a trip. Ugh.... I replaced the starter, tried starting the car, sluggish,then nothing. Absolutely nothing now, I don't know what's going on. I need advice. I turn the key. Light fan everything works. No spark, it seems I don't know. What now?

Post by **abscate** » 31 Oct 2021, 19:01

Report back the ambient temperature and battery voltage

loveMy850 · Post by **loveMy850** » 31 Oct 2021, 19:50

What do you mean, ambient temperature? Then voltage on battery is only going to 13.2volts

loveMy850 · Post by **loveMy850** » 31 Oct 2021, 21:12

abscate wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 19:01 Report back the ambient temperature and battery voltage

What do you mean ambient temperature? And the voltage on battery only goes to 13.2

loveMy850 · Post by **loveMy850** » 31 Oct 2021, 21:14

abscate wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 19:01 Report back the ambient temperature and battery voltage

What do you mean ambient temperature? And the voltage on battery only goes to 13.2
Am I reporting back correctly

Post by **FireFox31** » 02 Nov 2021, 19:37

Remove and charge the battery on a good, slow (2 amp) charger for as long as it needs to register a full charge. Might take 4 hours, might take 24 hours.

That little wire carries a lot of power and is super important. It eventually corrodes and breaks, killing otherwise good starter motors. Don't try to resolder it. Get a good Bosch starter from FCP or a junkyard (bring a crowbar and be gentle but persistent in removing it).

loveMy850 · Post by **loveMy850** » 04 Nov 2021, 12:58

I just put in a new battery. Still click that's all I'm getting. I replaced the starter with my old one bc I had it checked and they said it was good I'm getting a bad feeling that it isn't. What else can it be?

Post by **FireFox31** » 04 Nov 2021, 15:28

Whichever starter you use, that little wire must be intact. Examine it closely to see if it's corroded and ready to fail.

When I had a "no start" condition, I read tons of threads about it. Here's every lead I found back then. Research them to see what you might find.

Hold the key on start for 20+ seconds.
Try a remote starter to bypass the ignition switch.
Bad clutch switch? Manual transmission.
Fuse 6 for central locking? Try starting without it.
"Attempt a normal start with tailgate open and see what happens. Occasionally the tailgate's harness wears to the point of a short - it is known to cause issues with immobilizer operation - which if I remember correctly is integrated into the ECM." A tailgate wiring brake may trip fuse 6 for central locking, then prevent cranking.
Hammer (lightly) on the starter solenoid.
Is there sound from the fuel pump? Groan or hum?
Check all grounds around the engine. Connect the battery negative to the block, then try starting.
Measure battery voltage across the posts. "12.06V is a dead battery at room temperature."
Jump starter relay pins 30 and 87?
Alarm locking module?

"Check voltage at both starter nuts specifically while cranking. Steps:
a) Put voltmeter ground on engine, not on battery. Alternate voltmeter positive lead between both starter wires. I am assuming 850 has two starter wires, most (all?) cars do. One is connected directly to battery (larger wire) and one (smaller wire) is going through ignition, fuses, etc. If both are still >12V while cranking, you have a starter issue (I doubt this is the case though).
b) If both <12V, change voltmeter ground to battery ground vs engine ground and check both again. If both still <12V and you charged battery, replace battery.
c) If only one is <12V, report back for more troubleshooting..."

Ultimately, my problem was failed grounding straps at the back of the engine; copper wires from the engine to the body. They looked intact but turned to dust when I touched them. Connecting a jumper cable from the battery negative to the engine block made it start. However, their failure gave me no startm no crank, and no click. You have the click, so it's probably something different.

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