Looking at a couple of P2s

Post by **erikv11** » 21 Oct 2022, 13:44

A beater P2 XC70 is perfect for the winter, I agree. I'd look for one with bad cosmetics as you suggest but realistically any beater P2 will likely need some service to the AWD. Maybe a catch-22.

454cid · Post by **454cid** » 22 Oct 2022, 13:14

erikv11 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 13:44 A beater P2 XC70 is perfect for the winter, I agree. I'd look for one with bad cosmetics as you suggest but realistically any beater P2 will likely need some service to the AWD. Maybe a catch-22.

I looked at the car again today. I didn't get keys, but they had it unlocked. I pulled the transmission dip stick and the fluid did not look brand new, but wasn't used motor oil black either. The remaining bit of CV axle stuck in the transmission is all greasy, but it occurs to me that the CV grease would get flung all over, so likely not congealed leaking ATF. We'll, see. Maybe if it goes cheap.

There's a number of other vehicles that are also possibilities something of them more practical than others..... good thing I don't have land and a pole barn. I'd have rows of projects/toys. The other Volvo possibility would be a P80 S70 with some front end damage. That car might actually be worth fixing, but it's probably fine after getting a new headlight, for the winter. It's not AWD, but that's more of a nicety not a requirement for a winter car, for me. I was thinking I wouldn't mind pulling the rims and washer nozzles for my 850

I'm not sure if the S70 is a Turbo, or NA.

Post by **scot850** » 22 Oct 2022, 16:31

A set of studded narrow tires (185/60/15) I think is the right winter tire for these. I can't recall if it was 60 or 65 sidewalls the dealer used to sell, it has been a few years since I sold them! They cut great down through wet snow, and you have the winter trans setting to reduce wheel spin if you get stuck.

Neil.

Post by **Blacklab467** » 23 Oct 2022, 04:56

454cid wrote: ↑22 Oct 2022, 13:14
erikv11 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 13:44 A beater P2 XC70 is perfect for the winter, I agree. I'd look for one with bad cosmetics as you suggest but realistically any beater P2 will likely need some service to the AWD. Maybe a catch-22.
I looked at the car again today. I didn't get keys, but they had it unlocked. I pulled the transmission dip stick and the fluid did not look brand new, but wasn't used motor oil black either. The remaining bit of CV axle stuck in the transmission is all greasy, but it occurs to me that the CV grease would get flung all over, so likely not congealed leaking ATF. We'll, see. Maybe if it goes cheap.

There's a number of other vehicles that are also possibilities something of them more practical than others..... good thing I don't have land and a pole barn. I'd have rows of projects/toys. The other Volvo possibility would be a P80 S70 with some front end damage. That car might actually be worth fixing, but it's probably fine after getting a new headlight, for the winter. It's not AWD, but that's more of a nicety not a requirement for a winter car, for me. I was thinking I wouldn't mind pulling the rims and washer nozzles for my 850

I'm not sure if the S70 is a Turbo, or NA.

I think what probably happened is that someone decided that the Driver's side CV axle was bad and decided to change it, then couldn't get it out of the transmission so they disassembled the joint and left the stub in the Transmission end. Those axles have a circlip that can be a little tricky to remove and get the axle out so they probably gave up and sent the car to auction as is. That bore in the transmission where the CV axle goes is dry so will not leak fluid.
You said it has 102K miles? I would try and get it cheap and get a OEM used GKN axle from the wreckers and take a chance on the car if it runs good and everything else looks acceptable. That's pretty low miles!
I have a couple threads that I posted a couple years ago on how best to remove the axle and how to repair/service the Haldex system and angle gear. With that kind of mileage the Bevel gear/ collar sleeve is likely still good, I would suspect the Haldex pump would need replacement and the fluid changed, about $400.
This might be a real good car if you can pick it up real cheap, that's pretty low mileage.

454cid · Post by **454cid** » 25 Oct 2022, 12:53

Blacklab467 wrote: ↑23 Oct 2022, 04:56 I think what probably happened is that someone decided that the Driver's side CV axle was bad and decided to change it, then couldn't get it out of the transmission so they disassembled the joint and left the stub in the Transmission end. Those axles have a circlip that can be a little tricky to remove and get the axle out so they probably gave up and sent the car to auction as is. That bore in the transmission where the CV axle goes is dry so will not leak fluid.
You said it has 102K miles? I would try and get it cheap and get a OEM used GKN axle from the wreckers and take a chance on the car if it runs good and everything else looks acceptable. That's pretty low miles!
I have a couple threads that I posted a couple years ago on how best to remove the axle and how to repair/service the Haldex system and angle gear. With that kind of mileage the Bevel gear/ collar sleeve is likely still good, I would suspect the Haldex pump would need replacement and the fluid changed, about $400.
This might be a real good car if you can pick it up real cheap, that's pretty low mileage.

I watched a couple of videos on the CV axle replacement. Seems the cir-clip on these is a little more positively engaged than the ones on my truck.... I can just yank on those.

I looked at it again today.... still kicking around the idea of buying it. This time I turned the wheel, put it in drive with the Parking brake applied. The CV stub spins with the others stationary. This is when the shaking occurs. How does this happen mechanically? Is it clutches someplace that are slipping and chattering? I'm wondering if damage has occurred with the car being run this way.

Post by **abscate** » 26 Oct 2022, 00:24

It should have a parts car price, like $200 , with those issues

I'm wondering if damage has occurred with the car being run this way.

Yes.

454cid · Post by **454cid** » 26 Oct 2022, 01:10

abscate wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 00:24 It should have a parts car price, like $200 , with those issues

Opening/minimum bid is $500.

Post by **abscate** » 26 Oct 2022, 03:31

454cid wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 01:10
abscate wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 00:24 It should have a parts car price, like $200 , with those issues
Opening/minimum bid is $500.

Hard no from me.

The 2001 had a problematic first generation 5 speed with neutral stop software that was harsh on the transmission

In the words of the immortal JRL, “ don’t buy a 2001 unless it drives perfectly “

If you can’t test drive it, pass.

454cid · Post by **454cid** » 26 Oct 2022, 07:45

abscate wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 03:31
454cid wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 01:10
abscate wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 00:24 It should have a parts car price, like $200 , with those issues
Opening/minimum bid is $500.

Hard no from me.

The 2001 had a problematic first generation 5 speed with neutral stop software that was harsh on the transmission

In the words of the immortal JRL, “ don’t buy a 2001 unless it drives perfectly “

If you can’t test drive it, pass.

I did pass on the 2001 v70 just for that reason. The XC70 with the missing CV shaft is a 2006.

Post by **br0dy519** » 26 Oct 2022, 16:58

abscate wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 03:31 In the words of the immortal JRL, “ don’t buy a 2001 unless it drives perfectly “

God I miss that guy. Going to drink one in his memory tonight.

Looking at a couple of P2s

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