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Will Vida and Dice really help with my 1998 v70?

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Will Vida and Dice really help with my 1998 v70?

Post by MrAl »

Hello there,

There are a lot fo knowledgeable people on this site that know a lot about Volvos, even the 1998. It's surprising that so many people are deeply into these cars. So i hope someone can give me some good information on this.

The weather will be getting warmer soon and so i hope to do more on my 1998 v70. I have some electrical things to finish up but then after that i'd like to dig deeper into the repairs on this car.
I ran into Vida and Dice again in one of Matts posts, and i have to say i am more interested in that now. I know i have asked some questions in the past about this but that was probably 6 years ago so dont remember much about it, and at that time i didnt thing these two items would make much difference.

So the question is, would these two things help me diagnose problems with my 1998 v70. In particular, would it be able to tell me why the OBDII monitors will not go ready? I was under the impression that they were ready, but a quick test with my OBDII meter tells me that NONE of them are ready. Well, almost none. There are 6 monitors not ready. That includes oxygen, cat, etc., and secondary air system (SAS i guess we use for the abbreviation). This is really strange, but i need a way to figure out why they wont go ready even after 100's of miles and various town driving.
It's funny too because i can hear the SAS air pump running and that's when it usually does the SAS test and maybe another test, but the SAS monitor still does not set, and this was after many runs.

So i need a way to find out why this is not working. Will Vida and Dice help with this? Im sort of at the end of the line here and need to do something to fix this.

Thanks much for any ideas or information. I havent actually thought about this in a line time.
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.

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Post by Goupil »

Is the throttle body cable actuated or electronic ? The change happened somewhere near the end of 1998.

Throttle body cars are M4.4 ECU and wont work with VIDA afaik.
As the official Volvo tools are quite rare/expensive, the 2 main options for the home gamer are:
- android phone with the 850 OBD II app (4 bucks) + a bluetooth ELM327 (a good one, read the developper website https://xiaotec.fi/?a=10 )
- windows compteur with Vol-FCR (~150$ or a sail on the high seas) + a 10$ blue vag com kkl cable

Lots more infos on this website
https://jonesrh.info/volvo850/volvo_850_diag_links.html

ETM cars are ME7 and should work with VIDA
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Post by MrAl »

Goupil wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 05:44 Is the throttle body cable actuated or electronic ? The change happened somewhere near the end of 1998.

Throttle body cars are M4.4 ECU and wont work with VIDA afaik.
As the official Volvo tools are quite rare/expensive, the 2 main options for the home gamer are:
- android phone with the 850 OBD II app (4 bucks) + a bluetooth ELM327 (a good one, read the developper website https://xiaotec.fi/?a=10 )
- windows compteur with Vol-FCR (~150$ or a sail on the high seas) + a 10$ blue vag com kkl cable

Lots more infos on this website
https://jonesrh.info/volvo850/volvo_850_diag_links.html

ETM cars are ME7 and should work with VIDA
Hi,

You mean the cable from the gas pedal? Yes it's a cable.
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.

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Post by misha »

Vida Dice from '99.
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
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'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

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Post by scot850 »

2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold

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Post by MrAl »

scot850 wrote: 30 Mar 2023, 19:21 This link may help:

http://www.volvotips.com/index.php/850- ... codes-obd/

Neil.
Hi,

What should i be looking for on that site?
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.

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Post by Chuck W »

What scanner are you using?

Have you used the "850 OBD-II" Android app? The developer of that might have some useful input on the problem perhaps. (xanthefin on this forum.)
'97 854 T5 - Manual Swap/M4.4/COP/NA cams/P2R Brakes/16T/ chassis bracing/ XC70 nose swap
'97 855 GLT - Hers. RN swap/16T/COP/VVT/exhaust/302s/Flashed M4.4/ chassis bracing/ 2 kid seats
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Post by MrAl »

Chuck W wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 06:09 What scanner are you using?

Have you used the "850 OBD-II" Android app? The developer of that might have some useful input on the problem perhaps. (xanthefin on this forum.)
Right now i have one it's orange i'll have to check the name. It does show trouble codes and clear them, the monitors that is.
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.

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Post by scot850 »

Al, that post of mine was not meant for this thread. I have no idea as to how it got there. I was posting it in another thread and then it disappeared when posting. Weird?? Bottom line, it has no relevance to you on this thread.

Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold

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Post by MrAl »

scot850 wrote: 31 Mar 2023, 10:24 Al, that post of mine was not meant for this thread. I have no idea as to how it got there. I was posting it in another thread and then it disappeared when posting. Weird?? Bottom line, it has no relevance to you on this thread.

Neil.
Oh ok strange :-)
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
1998 v70, non turbo, FWD, base model, on the road from April 2nd, 2015 to July 26, 2023.

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