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07 XC70 jerky, then drivetrain does not engage, anti-skid light

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2001 - 2007 V70
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Re: 07 XC70 jerky, then drivetrain does not engage, anti-skid light

Post by abscate »

I’m reading in a nasty failed CV joint from those audio symptoms.

The AWD is then going crazy since it’s detecting huge variations in wheel spin between front and rear?

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Post by jonesg »

scot850 wrote: 10 Feb 2024, 23:16

Is this a P2 thing? On the P80's with either the 2 or 4 bolt lower control arm I can't see how the axle could move outward or load the carrier bearing like this to move.

Neil.
the control arm is bolted to the frame but the other end is only held by the ball joint stud.
if the ball joint is disconnected and the strut is jacked up by jacking under the knuckle , the strut will move outward because it can.
I suspect someone did that in the past with the driveshaft center bolt still in place and pulled the shaft from its fully seated position.

Its better to pull the control arm down than push the knuckle up to seat the ball joint.

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Post by scot850 »

I can see that. Just seems strange it has been driving fine and all of a sudden this happens. It is certainly a strange issue.

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Post by erikv11 »

abscate wrote: 11 Feb 2024, 04:13 I’m reading in a nasty failed CV joint from those audio symptoms.

The AWD is then going crazy since it’s detecting huge variations in wheel spin between front and rear?

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CV seems completely fine by feel, now that the axle is out. It simply disengaged from the trans.

Agreed on the rest, AWD going nuts trying to keep the car going.
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Post by erikv11 »

There’s no pothole involved it was going low speed when it failed. At any rate It wasn’t sudden it was gradual, the 1.5 cm of shiny surface at the transmission tells you that. It reached its limit suddenly sure. Pothole or forced-by-mechanic explanations don’t seem plausible.

Don't the CVs have enough lateral play to allow axle tip to back out of trans if there was slippage at the carrier bearing? We've certainly seen driver's side axles (no carrier bearing) backed out.

Also regarding suddenly: would be more accurate to say there was slight intermittent shimmy for a long time - see my earlier post about the peeing axle, it’s this axle viewtopic.php?t=103624.

No way in hell I’d reseat the bearing and use this POS unless under duress lol.
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Post by jonesg »

bearing holds it in alignment, the bearing shifted and allowed enough slack for it to pop out.

same as unbolting the carrier bearing in the prop shaft allows the shaft to disconnect from the angle gear.

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Exactly
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
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'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
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Post by cn90 »

This issue has happened before.
In this thread, it is worth reading @jimmy57's post:

Bearing shift on my 3rd autozone passenger cv axle?
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Post by Krons »

erikv11 wrote: 10 Feb 2024, 13:17 passenger's CV dislodged due to slippage of the half shaft through the carrier bearing.
How many miles on that CV shaft Erik?
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Post by erikv11 »

Krons wrote: 11 Feb 2024, 18:56
erikv11 wrote: 10 Feb 2024, 13:17 passenger's CV dislodged due to slippage of the half shaft through the carrier bearing.
How many miles on that CV shaft Erik?
PO paid $300 for the part from a Minneapolis Indy shop (Glasgow) so clearly an aftermarket part. Lifespan 08/2018-02/2024 and 124k-186k so:

62k miles
5 years and 6 months
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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