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Ignition Coil Lifespan

Help, Advice, Owners' Discussion and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's stylish, distinctive P2 platform cars sold as model years 2001-2007 (North American market year designations).

2001 - 2007 V70
2001 - 2004 V70 XC (Cross Country)
2004 - 2007 XC70 (Cross Country)
2001 - 2009 S60
2003 - 2007 S60 R
2004 - 2007 V70 R

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Re: Ignition Coil Lifespan

Post by Georgeandkira »

Here comes a "jynx post".

Before my first white engine plug change I called myvolvopartsonline.com (big Texas dealership parts dept.) to ask about coil availability because I anticipated dried wires cracking away due to heat.

The fellow on the phone said, "We stock 'em but I've never sold one". I haven't experienced a failure (3 V70's).

I do like abscate's "2 spares" approach to identifying a misfiring cylinder. I must get to a junkyard.

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Post by chrism »

Georgeandkira wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 05:56 I do like abscate's "2 spares" approach to identifying a misfiring cylinder. I must get to a junkyard.
I have a couple spares, that I picked up at the Pick-n-Pull for $5 each, sitting on the garage shelf. The big question is whether they will still still work after being knocked off the shelf onto the floor numerous times :(

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Post by regent »

chrism wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 07:40
Georgeandkira wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 05:56 I do like abscate's "2 spares" approach to identifying a misfiring cylinder. I must get to a junkyard.
I have a couple spares, that I picked up at the Pick-n-Pull for $5 each, sitting on the garage shelf. The big question is whether they will still still work after being knocked off the shelf onto the floor numerous times :(
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Soak'em thoroughly in sea/ocean water for at least 15 days, this will remove all doubt.
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Post by abscate »

Georgeandkira wrote: 03 Apr 2018, 05:56 Here comes a "jynx post".

Before my first white engine plug change I called myvolvopartsonline.com (big Texas dealership parts dept.) to ask about coil availability because I anticipated dried wires cracking away due to heat.

The fellow on the phone said, "We stock 'em but I've never sold one". I haven't experienced a failure (3 V70's).

I do like abscate's "2 spares" approach to identifying a misfiring cylinder. I must get to a junkyard.
Stop in on your way through , I’ve got spares
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Post by precopster »

Every time I've had a misfire due to a coil the OBDII system has narrowed it down to the exact cylinder each time......I must be lucky. Have changed out about 5 of them on my own high mileage vehicles. I might add that on our XC90 2.5T I had an early failure at 170,000kms of cylinder 2 coil pack because of massive gaps on the worn out plugs.
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Post by abscate »

I think if you have a coil failure and a constant miss you will get the right cylinder code, P030x

If you have rough running or an intermittent miss, the cylinder ID is not as robust.

One think I like about cheap plugs and 30k change interval...you don’t run into the large gap stress if you check them every 15k.
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Post by cn90 »

For those who insist on keeping the plastic cover in place, my recommendation is do not install all 6 Torx bolts.

Install only 4 Torx bolts at both ends.

The 2 Torx bolts under the Turbo pipe...leave them out
(save them in the trunk) bc these 2 Torx bolts are difficult
to remove with the Turbo pipe in place.

If you only have 4 bolts in place, then dealing with ignition
coil in the middle of nowhere is somewhat easier...
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Post by volvolugnut »

cn90 wrote: 09 Apr 2024, 11:26 For those who insist on keeping the plastic cover in place, my recommendation is do not install all 6 Torx bolts.

Install only 4 Torx bolts at both ends.

The 2 Torx bolts under the Turbo pipe...leave them out
(save them in the trunk) bc these 2 Torx bolts are difficult
to remove with the Turbo pipe in place.

If you only have 4 bolts in place, then dealing with ignition
coil in the middle of nowhere is somewhat easier...
Good advice. Removing the turbo pipe is time consuming.
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Post by cn90 »

Ok, so back to the debate: "replace as you go" vs "all 5 new coils"...

Used genuine coil is $15-$20 on eBay.
New Bosch coil (FCPEuro, eBay etc) is only $43/each.

So, to install all new, it is only about $215/for 5 Bosch coils.

What is everyone's doing?
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Post by erikv11 »

As per discussions e.g.
viewtopic.php?t=100522
viewtopic.php?p=639095&hilit=mpg#p639095

I advocate to replace all 5 with new Bosch around the 180k - 200k, whenever convenient. If you already drive the car much, or plan to keep running it for a while, the replacement will in all likelihood quickly pay for itself.

High mileage coils will likely last a very long(er) time but I'm moving to only using them for troubleshooting or temporary repairs.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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