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Re: Manually rotating camshafts by hand using camshaft locking tool, did I damage the valves?

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Cam Locking Tool Question (Working on 2004 XC70 2.5T 150k) dual VVTs.

TLDR1: Once everything timed can I* loosen the CAM sprockets w/timing belt still on to align the CAMs to fit into the CAM lock?
TLDR2: Once timed could I remove the timing belt to align the CAM tool?
TLDR3: Once timed could I leave everything buttoned up and install the CAM tool upside down if I can get it to align that way?

Hand-wringing as follows:
Got it timed up, accessory belt off, now wrestling with the CAM lock tool. After you secure the locking tool arms to the CAMs, the locking tool is supposed to align with the threaded locking bolt center hole on the lower bar - mine only aligns with the threaded hole up. To make this work Id need to get a longer center locking bolt and add a nut. Guess Im worried it wont be as strong somehow or might move or for whatever reason means the cams wont be factory aligned to take the torque of removing camshaft adjusting hub.

Abscate said so long as the crank is timed, I can move the CAMs so answering my own question TLDR 1 & 2 should be ok. Constructive input appreciated :)

PS Last time I did this job on my 04 V70 2.5T I lined up locking tool with a little persuasion.

thnx all

[*]'can I' meaning can I w/out doing harm...
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1. Yes, absolutely.
2. Yes.
3. You'll see it immediately. It locks/mounts in one position only.

Too long bolt in Chinese kit is a common problem.

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Thanks for the reply VTI - went with loosening the sprockets and worked great

On another note looks like its the exhaust cam itself leaking - huge amount of play on it so I ordered replacement. I had the exact same failure on my V70 2.5T at 253k miles. My seals were probably ok as it took much effort and prying to remove them. Crank seal looks ok and like the last time I did this that oil pump does not want to come off so Ill probably just leave it alone...

Thanks again for the help.
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2004 XC70 AWD Wagon 2.5L L5 DOHC 20V TURBO 155k mi :D
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2008 Toyota Avalon XL 165k mi (meh)

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dono wrote: 29 Mar 2025, 17:55 Thanks for the reply VTI - went with lessening the sprockets and worked great

On another note looks like its the exhaust cam itself leaking - huge amount of play on it so I ordered replacement. I had the exact same failure on my V70 2.5T at 253k miles. My seals were probably ok as it took much effort and prying to remove them. Crank seal looks ok and like the last time I did this that oil pump does not want to come off so Ill probably just leave it alone...

Thanks again for the help.
Exhaust VVT hub has a lot of play, like 2-3 times more than intake. They do it even when new.

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vtl wrote: 29 Mar 2025, 18:04
dono wrote: 29 Mar 2025, 17:55 Thanks for the reply VTI - went with lessening the sprockets and worked great

On another note looks like its the exhaust cam itself leaking - huge amount of play on it so I ordered replacement. I had the exact same failure on my V70 2.5T at 253k miles. My seals were probably ok as it took much effort and prying to remove them. Crank seal looks ok and like the last time I did this that oil pump does not want to come off so Ill probably just leave it alone...

Thanks again for the help.
Exhaust VVT hub has a lot of play, like 2-3 times more than intake. They do it even when new.
Thanks, Ill check the old cam hub play and compare to the new one - last time I did this repair on same engine (different car) the exhaust had this much play too and it was the source of the leak.
2004 V70 AWD Wagon 2.5L L5 DOHC 20V TURBO 268k mi :D
2004 XC70 AWD Wagon 2.5L L5 DOHC 20V TURBO 155k mi :D
1999 Mercedes e320 4Matic 238k mi :D
2008 Toyota Avalon XL 165k mi (meh)

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