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XeMODeX ETM validation is POSITIVE (With LIFETIME Warranty)

Do you have a failing Electronic Throttle Module? What steps to take if you do, plus the latest ETM news. Volvo 1999-2002 models only please.
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ChrisatXeMODeX
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Re: XeMODeX ETM validation is POSITIVE

Post by ChrisatXeMODeX »

First thing, on their site they say that they will install a Digital Angle Sensor in place of film resistor but they don't show any pictures of it.
Below is a picture of a non-contacting unit (left) and original MM design (right).
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Second thing, on Ebay they say that they will rebuild your ETM;
"Complete unit will be re-assembled and permanently sealed".
They have to open it to get to the electronics. The end opposite the motor has to be replaced with their end cap and electronics
Here is your answer.
At this time it looks like we now have the 4th R (see http://VEXEDvolvo.org) which is REDESIGN. I see no reason to give this XeMODeX ETM other than an A+. Since the rest of the Magnettl Marelli ETM is of excellent construction, and this replaces the only part that is subject to wear this should be considered a life-of-the-car module.
Third thing, "Your throttle then will be bench tested to insure proper operation".How do they bench test these? I don't believe they can simulate the communication between the ECM and the ETM if the are not matched by software...
Picture of the ETM "Bench testing”- Just kidding. Anything is possible, how you ask? Well… just think outside the box.
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Post by ChrisatXeMODeX »

I would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Don Willson for his endeavored dedication to solve this ETM issue. He devoted countless hours of his time in helping Volvo enthusiasts around the world. His hard work paid off, Volvo did issue a recall in North America. But he was still looking for a closure; his fourth “R”-Redesign.
We accepted this as a challenge and believe we did deliver. Volvo owners around the globe should be very proud of Mr. Willson’s accomplishments.
Thank you Sir!

Best regards,

Christopher Golinski
President
XeMODeX Inc.

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Post by MadeInJapan »

Thanks, Christopher for posting.
I really love the fact that things came full circle and that Volvo owners now have an option that is not just the old dead-end non-solution that they once had.

Somehow, your picture of the XeModeX ETM and MM ETM did not post up side by side. Could you go back and edit or send it to me so that I can correct that? All eyes from many different forums are on this thread...best to provide as much information as possible about your solution. :D
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Post by gshadow325 »

chris, sent you a email. i am trying to get you my ETM asap.i am one of the first few out of warranty ETM victims. i am out by at most, 4 weeks when the problems first arose. i ignored it and now at the 9 week mark, the car left me stranded at a relatives house. lucky that i had my tools with me and the ETM was out in 10 minutes. its now packed up and ready to go to Niagra Falls or Canada. Hopefully niagra falls, it MUCH CHEAPER for me!!!
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Post by decker »

When can we do the first "group buy"? :lol:

I'll be speaking with Chris tomorrow... and hopefully I won't be losing my RICA tuned ECU's upgrades due to Volvo's latest software band-aid if I decide to try their DAS modded ETM.

See these threads for my stumbling/bumbling idle issue that I am attributing to my (still under warranty for another 3 months) already yellow label ETM. http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index.ph ... pic=111147 & http://www.v70r.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17102

Thanks for all of your hard work in regards to keeping these cars on the road Don, Chris... and everyone!!!

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Post by DonWillson »

You have a bad ETM, your car has been a soccer mom driver, low speed, idle and around town driving. When you get up to speed you are in an area where the pot is not worn through. Since you are close to the end of the warranty they are going to demand that you have a OBD code that shows it is bad. You will probably pay for an air mass meter, EGR cleaning and other things. If you have not had the software recall they will do that and it might mess up your RICA. Also it will make the ETM less sensitive to symptoms and only 'throw a code' if you go into a limp home mode.
Don

decker wrote:When can we do the first "group buy"? :lol:

I'll be speaking with Chris tomorrow... and hopefully I won't be losing my RICA tuned ECU's upgrades due to Volvo's latest software band-aid if I decide to try their DAS modded ETM.

See these threads for my stumbling/bumbling idle issue that I am attributing to my (still under warranty for another 3 months) already yellow label ETM. http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index.ph ... pic=111147 & http://www.v70r.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17102
Announcing my affiliation with XeMODeX, Inc. as Internet correspondent and consultant to Volvophiles needing help with failing ETMs. See http://FixYourETM.com. For the full history of this problem see http://VEXEDvolvo.org

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Post by decker »

DonWillson wrote:You have a bad ETM, your car has been a soccer mom driver, low speed, idle and around town driving. When you get up to speed you are in an area where the pot is not worn through. Since you are close to the end of the warranty they are going to demand that you have a OBD code that shows it is bad. You will probably pay for an air mass meter, EGR cleaning and other things. If you have not had the software recall they will do that and it might mess up your RICA. Also it will make the ETM less sensitive to symptoms and only 'throw a code' if you go into a limp home mode.
Don
Yup... cold climate cars tend to do a LOT more idling for warm-up. Hence the "idle stumble" on this car instead of the "cruise stumble".

As a matter of fact my truck is idling right now before I leave for my 1+ mile drive to work... it's -8F here at the moment. :lol:

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Post by RustyH »

Don, thank you for taking on this multi-year project. It is really quite fascinating.
Chris, thank you for offering a solution.
It would be great if this can one day be an easy DIY project. I can do a few simple things with cars but I am not a mechanic. I have cleaned the ETM a few times now on my wife's 2000 S70 which by the way always seems to help some with performance. My cleaning method is to unscrew the ETM so that it is completely away from the intake manifold to clean both sides. I lay newspaper on top of whatever is down there (radiator hose) and then clean the ETM right there. So, my focus with this e-mail relates to not wanting to cut the ETM cable. The last time I cleaned the ETM, I tried my best to pull the connector end between some spaces between the starter and whatever else was down there. I could not figure it out. And, of course, if I had pulled it out, I probably was not going to be able to re-route the cable the same way, but that doesn't appear necessary.
So, in keeping with an easy DIY goal, how about cutting the connector end off and send it along with the ETM for re-fitting with the new technology? I imagine it would be easy for Chris' company to put the wires back in the connector and send the unit back in one piece.

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Post by RustyH »

I probably should have made the punchline more obvious--I don't want to remove the starter if I don't have to.

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Post by decker »

Where can I find the ETM removal procedure? I was just out in the garage for about five minutes poking around with a flashlight. I can see the unit... I see the air inlet feedpipe... I see the wire harness loom... but I don't see the four bolts that hold it to the manifold or where the wire goes to exactly.

I'm planning on removing my "yellow tagged unit" over the coming weekend and sending it in... even though I'm still covered under the 10 year/200K "warranty" :roll: Mine hasn't failed completely yet... but it's gunna give up the ghost soon and most likely set a code... and with my typical luck it'll be very soon and most likely be at a very inopertune time. This is an "extra" car for our family that I just picked up so I'm not in a huge rush and won't be doing "next day air shipping" in attempt to save on some of the shipping costs.

I'm not going to lose the RICA computer tune over this ETM debacle... and I'm NOT taking it to the dealer. (Not that there is anything wrong with my local Volvo dealer... they didn't design it... they just have to "deal with it")

Now here is the magic "?" Will Volvo ever be willing to reimburse me for this unit if I purchase it and I completely circumvent the dealership and Volvo? I highly doubt it... but all of the receipts and bills will go into our cars file.

(If this is easier done on a hoist please let me know... I can take it down to work and leave it there for a little while. Also... should the battery be disconnected during this procedure? If I'd have to key the ignition to roll the car off the hoist and steer it around and potentially mess something up... I'd love to know that fact now.)

Fingers crossed... :mrgreen:

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