$10,000 S80 Challenge Topic is solved

[pgill]

12/9/2021 cost update

Total Vehicle Cost (excluding, wheels, tires, fluids and filters)

$3100 --- Depreciation (Purchase price $7400 - Present value $4300)
$62.53 --- (31401556) --- Booster O-rings
$40.35 --- (DENSO 5344) --- Sparkplugs
$58.28 --- (LR006071) --- Thermostat
$00.66 --- (LR001505) O-ring for 30713530
$24.29 --- (30713530) --- Coolant hose
$68.85 --- (31272677) --- Oil Filter housing
$18.92 --- (LR006076) --- Idler pulley
$18.92 --- (LR006076) --- Tensioner Pulley
$08.97 --- (PK060473 CONTITECH) --- Aux Belt
$112.70 --- (LR021634) --- Motor Mount
$23.24 --- (30680474) --- Torq Mount
$15.76 --- (UD1306) --- Front Brake Pads (Amazon close out price, typical price is ~$75)
$523.23 --- AC repair
$43.37 --- Overdrive pulley ProParts Sweden 28436803
$323 ---- Radiator (Prem Air type)
$281 --- Radiator Fan (Siemens / VDO)
$34.4 --- (31272732-MFG14) BOSCH Fuel Pressure Sending unit
$11.61 --- (31300263) B+ Battery Clamp
$00.00 --- Loaner Battery from the Land Rover (Note: it is slightly too large and the cover only latches on one side)
$156.00 --- Mirror repair
$120.00 --- H8 GTR Ultra LED 2.0 bulbs
$06.00 --- Brake light bulb

Total $5119

Because my Son is back to the office the Volvo is being driven regularly again. And it has been very trouble free. Lately my time with the Volvo has been focused on things like conditioning the Leather seats and other random minor maintenance items. I will try to post more of these minor items. Otherwise this thread may be quiet for a long time waiting for something major to fail.

[abscate]

I think you’ve put 10,000 miles on her so about 50 cpm for repairs and depreciation at the moment, with the the biggest item 31cpm being depreciation of course.

20 cpm for refurbishment and repairs is excellent, that number will fall as the refurbishment stuff are 100k non-recurring items.

We need to debate the actual cost of when you replace a bulb , but have to buy a two pack, how do you add the inventory cost of your unused bulb..is it a capital cost or can you depreciate it over 5 years?

These details are important on Wall Street

[pgill]

I think you’ve put 10,000 miles on her so about 50 cpm for repairs and depreciation at the moment, with the the biggest item 31cpm being depreciation of course.

20 cpm for refurbishment and repairs is excellent, that number will fall as the refurbishment stuff are 100k non-recurring items.

We need to debate the actual cost of when you replace a bulb , but have to buy a two pack, how do you add the inventory cost of your unused bulb..is it a capital cost or can you depreciate it over 5 years?

These details are important on Wall Street

ABSCATE,

Correction 20,000 miles
25 CPM for repairs and depreciation
---> 15 CPM is depreciation
---> 10 CPM is repairs


I completely agree that most of the items that I repaired won't need to be done again until I get well over 200,000 miles. My S80 absolutely needed some attention when I first bought it and I gave it what it needed. Buying this P3 worked out really well for me.

As for the final comment about the Brake light bulb

GAAP - I am not following Generally Accepted Accounting Practices
My accounting likely wouldn't pass IRS scrutiny (but I don't plan to take a deduction so that won't be a problem)
Since the spare bulb is in the car next to the spare tire I think we can just add it to the cost and ignore the accounting inconsistency

The bigger question is what about the parts that I have on the shelf that will fit my S80 3.2 and my LR2 3.2 right now I only assign the cost if I install the parts

Example
6 ignition coils (from Volvo)
6 sparkplugs Denso Iridium TT (also from Volvo)
Various coolant hoses
Drain plug and O-ring for automatic transmission
Intake Manifold Gaskets (Victor Reinz excellent quality aftermarket)
etc.

Thanks

Paul

[abscate]

You have to depreciate the Volvo parts in Kroner and the Land Rover parts in GBP, and hedge the exchange rates on both, offering the result as a derivatived security on Wall street. I would short it like game Stop too.

Im going off the see if my spark plug GAAPS are set correctly.

[pgill]

ABSCATE

If we are going to make that adjustment we will need to

Reconcile: the Generally Accepted Accounting Practices vs the Allegedly Acceptable Recordkeeping Practices


G.A.A.P. to A.A.R.P. reconciliation

First we must confirm compliance to the Part 2 guidelines

Note: due to restrictions here part of the guideline had to be redacted %#$&

What %#$& Wants, Part II
%#$& wants dollars
%#$& wants cents
%#$& wants pounds, shillings, and pence
%#$& wants guilders
%#$& wants kroner
%#$& wants swiss francs
%#$& wants french francs
%#$& wants escudos
%#$& wants pesetas
Don't send Lira
%#$& don't want small potatoes

It looks like we should be fine with the aforementioned hedging strategy as long as we stay away from the Lira


Take care

Paul

[pgill]

MVS Readers,

I bought my S80 a Christmas gift (actually it will work for all of my vehicles but don't tell the S80)

Autel 539B Diagnostic tool

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This tool has a lot of capability

I purchase it because of the Mode $06 data, and I don't currently have any tool that will show me this data.

Here is an example (actual data from my S80)

Misfire counter

EWMA = Exponential Weight Moving Average (This is effectively the average for the last 10 times you started the engine)

Last = The most recent time you used the engine (if you check the data before you start the engine it is the number of misfires from the last time you started the engine and it resets to zero as soon as you start the engine)


Here is my data for the S80 that I collected before starting the engine

Cylinder..........EWMA (counts)..........Last (counts)..........

Cylinder #1..............1.........................0..........
Cylinder #2..............0.........................0..........
Cylinder #3..............1.........................0.........
Cylinder #4..............0.........................0..........
Cylinder #5..............0.........................1..........
Cylinder #6..............1.........................1.........

These are obviously very low misfire counts.


Full disclosure you have to go thru the menu for each cylinder and select the EWMA and then go back and select the Last.
For a home mechanic that wants to check to see if things are working optimally this tool is amazing.
If you are repairing cars full time this tool isn't going to give you access to the data the way a $5K took would.
But for the price this tool is amazing

Go to 3:00 minutes in this Video to see how the tool works



Take care

Paul

PS when the tool asks if you want to delete old data say No

[abscate]

Link to Amazon via the MVS BUTTON

https://www.amazon.com/Autel-AL539B-Sca ... 165&sr=8-3

does that model Also support ABS and SRS module reading and clearing?

[pgill]

ABSCATE,

The is an excellent question.

My understanding is no it won't do that.

When I did my research I was looking for a tool that would use the ABS pump to bleed the brakes and I did find an Autel tool that would do that but the cost was higher and it didn't include a lot of the features that the AL539B has. Notably the Battery checking tool and the Starter checking tool.

I will post some information about the Starter checking function. (Short summary: my S80 starts in 0.6 seconds and my LR2 starts in 1.2 seconds, I think this is because the Land Rover doesn't pre-charge the fuel system like the S80 does, the negative effect of this is the shorter life of the starter, my LR2 starter died after 10 years and I couldn't find examples of Volvo 3.2 starters that failed in this time frame, there are many LR2 examples)

Thanks for the question

Paul

[pgill]

MVS Readers,

I hooked up my Autel AL539B to the Volvo today to measure how long it takes to warm up the Engine to 40C.

2010 S80 3.2 time to warm from 11C to 40C

----------2 Minutes and 56 Seconds----------


2008 LR2 3.2 time to warm from 12C to 40C (the Land Rover was in the sun)

----------2 Minutes and 35 Seconds----------


So basically the same.

The 40C is relevant because the Engine Control System behaves differently below 40C.


The important take away is that if your 3.2 or 3.0T can't do this then replace the Thermostat.

I've replaced the Thermostat on both of my 3.2's

While I was in there checking the time to warmup I noticed that I had a pending code on the S80.

Read the next post to find out more about the pending code...

[pgill]

Pending code

P2227 - barometric pressure sensor intake manifold


I need to disclose something; I broke the latch for the connector on my MAP sensor about a year ago and I did what I would call a field expedient repair. I RTV the connector body to the MAP sensor. And this worked for about a year.


I did research for a new connector and I found Volvo Part # 30658215

Here is a post that shows the connector viewtopic.php?t=97681

My RTV repair was holding so I didn't bother to replace the housing before today.

The weather was nice today in the afternoon so I decided to give it a go.

It wasn't really hard.

The White part had to be removed and I used a small screwdriver to depress the plastic retaining tab so that the wires could be pulled out.

The terminals on the end of the wires has two locating features that force you to insert the terminal into the housing only one way. (It is essentially a square so you only have 4 choices and only 1 works) Once you get the first one to seat the rest are easy.


The click the I heard when I seated the connector on the MAP sensor was so satisfying.

Nothing compares with being able to fix something simple like this.

The Engine started right up (so it is unlikely that I swapped the order of the wires)

The scanner that I bought is so nice, as soon as I connected it it gave me a yellow warning. (Which is why I decided to do this today)

I will post here if I have to repair this connection further.

Thanks

Paul