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Re: 2002, V70 (ATF Drain)

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vtl wrote: 07 Jan 2024, 11:03
MoVolvos wrote: 06 Jan 2024, 23:06 If you can drain the fluid through a plug in the pan and you empty 3.5 quarts, you'll wind up putting in fresh 3.5 quarts into the empty pan. Now, if you flush through the radiator transmission hose, all 3.5 quarts will be pumped into the system while 3.5 quarts come out of the hose.

There will be dripping from inside the pan but not 2 quarts. Have done so many of these on so many makes. I always flush through an extra 2 quarts of the system capacity but it's usually clean after the 1 extra quart.
I wrote it perhaps a zillion times here and in other Volvo forums, that heat exchanger gets only a small fraction of all ATF circulating in the system. Everything else goes back to sump. It is not like you take out 2 dirty quarts, put 2 fresh quarts and it never mixes with dirty ATF left in the system. Even if you drain the sump first and refill it with fresh ATF, doing the rest through heat exchanger does not prevent old/new ATF mixing up.
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When you say heat exchanger do you mean the compartment in the radiator where the transmission fluid is circulated to cool? The engine oil cooler gets a small portion of engine oil while the majority of goes through the oil filter but that's not case with the transmission fluid.
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MoVolvos wrote: 07 Jan 2024, 11:18 When you say heat exchanger do you mean the compartment in the radiator where the transmission fluid is circulated to cool?
Yes.
MoVolvos wrote: 07 Jan 2024, 11:18The engine oil cooler gets a small portion of engine oil while the majority of goes through the oil filter but that's not case with the transmission fluid.
Engine oil cooler gets everything. Drop the pan, you'll see it.

Transmission cooler gets a fraction. There's a cooler bypass valve that restricts flow through the cooler to avoid ruptures.

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vtl wrote: 07 Jan 2024, 11:29
MoVolvos wrote: 07 Jan 2024, 11:18 When you say heat exchanger do you mean the compartment in the radiator where the transmission fluid is circulated to cool?
Yes.
MoVolvos wrote: 07 Jan 2024, 11:18The engine oil cooler gets a small portion of engine oil while the majority of goes through the oil filter but that's not case with the transmission fluid.
Engine oil cooler gets everything. Drop the pan, you'll see it.

Transmission cooler gets a fraction. There's a cooler bypass valve that restricts flow through the cooler to avoid ruptures.
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Interesting, perhaps someone else can confirm this on the oil cooler, I've never taken a Volvo pan off.

As for the transmission, experience shows you can only pump out the amount in the pan through the hose and that's pretty quickly as seen from most of the videos on Youtube. If the majority is flowing back into the pan rather than the hose it would take sometime to drain the pan? The bypass valve could be like that of the oil filter bypass. Only opens when the filter is clogged.
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Okay, last post from me on this one. I have received a lot of opinions and verbiage I don't quite understand on this topic and just simply want to know if the draining of the sump (24mm plug w/3.25 quarts out) will help my bucking of the transmission at all.
Right now at 195k miles, my P2 is bucking a lot at lower speeds. I have never changed the ATF as long as I have owned the car (2017). I am afraid to have a mechanic hook up the pumping machine that does a complete flush because that may screw the transmission for good. Do I have a 50/50 shot at the simple drain from the sump fixing the bucking? Thx!

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Buy a bottle of Lubegard HFM. Add 3 oz. Drive for a couple of days. If it improves your situation, fresh ATF will help.

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Mr. Detail wrote: 11 Jan 2024, 06:53 vtl, is this the right stuff?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134407194753?
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