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98 V70 non-turbo PCV system replacement

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Re: 98 V70 non-turbo PCV system replacement

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Ozark Lee wrote:There really isn't (shouldn't be anyway) that much flow so the smaller diameter works just fine.

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Yeah, my natural inclination is to not mess around with it.

The hole size (restriction) is about the ID of the original hose, though. By leaving it alone about the only real benefits of using the 5/8ths hose is that its cheap and won't clog with crud or break like the original. The thought that the bigger hose dramatically increases flow (discussed in other threads) is incorrect if there is a significant restriction in the flow path.

I was surprised how much oily residue and crud was coating the internal surfaces on the drivers side of the PCV system. I expected it only to be in the end over by the oil trap. Nice and clean now.

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Did you clean out the hard pipe really well? It accumulates a *lot* of crud, that is the big (and only, really) reason to replace it. And because the hard pipes get brittle after a dozen or so years.

The setup you describe is the normal one, every NA has the small diameter orifice at the flame trap housing. The main/possible advantage a larger diameter hose, is that it will clog less easily (more slowly) over time.
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erikv11 wrote:Did you clean out the hard pipe really well? It accumulates a *lot* of crud, that is the big (and only, really) reason to replace it. And because the hard pipes get brittle after a dozen or so years.

The setup you describe is the normal one, every NA has the small diameter orifice at the flame trap housing. The main/possible advantage a larger diameter hose, is that it will clog less easily (more slowly) over time.
i'm going to replace the hard line with heater hose. The hard line and rubber elbows on the ends of the hard line is getting really hard/brittle so I want to put something in that I wont have to deal with it again for 5 years. The hard line is very crapped up and the vacuum line is completely clogged. Cleaning the parts I plan to reuse was so much trouble that i'd rather replace the hoses.

I found a molded heater hose with enough straight section and bends that I can cut, trim and splice it with one splice and it will perfectly match the shape of the original line. it was $9 at Autozone.

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So today I tried to finish my project and as usual the dealer sold me an incorrect part. I have been buying parts from this dealership for 6 years and they never fail to get at least one part wrong. Actually they have never gotten it right for me. I wish I could do such a poor job and still collect a paycheck!

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At least they didn't do what O'Reilly Auto Parts did to me last week. I went in to buy a torque converter and they couldn't tell me which one was correct even though I had all of the tag numbers off of the transmission along with the year, make and model - and this was for a Chevy Suburban. They told me to go home a Google it.

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dosbricks wrote:The wobble extensions are great--smoother more accurate application of torque than a swivel joint when you are tightening down bolts. They can not achieve as much angle but usually just enough.

http://www.harborfreight.com/9-pc-wobbl ... 67971.html
These are made in Taiwan and the quality is surprising. BTW, I don't work for H.F.
Their Pittsburgh Pro line is way better than Craftsman and still less money. I haven't had to warranty any of my Pittsburgh tools yet, but I've made several trips to Sears in the meantime.

Of course, their $3 socket set is crap..but that's non their Pro line stuff.
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Matty Moo wrote:
dosbricks wrote:The wobble extensions are great--smoother more accurate application of torque than a swivel joint when you are tightening down bolts. They can not achieve as much angle but usually just enough.

http://www.harborfreight.com/9-pc-wobbl ... 67971.html
These are made in Taiwan and the quality is surprising. BTW, I don't work for H.F.
Their Pittsburgh Pro line is way better than Craftsman and still less money. I haven't had to warranty any of my Pittsburgh tools yet, but I've made several trips to Sears in the meantime.

Of course, their $3 socket set is crap..but that's non their Pro line stuff.
Well I bought my wobble extensions at Home Depot and got fewer than HF for the same cash but getting the manifold off was as easy as it gets. I removed the throttle body to clean it since it was filthy and all of the manifold bolts were easy to remove. The far left bottom one looks like it may be a little tough to get back on, though.

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Ozark Lee wrote:At least they didn't do what O'Reilly Auto Parts did to me last week. I went in to buy a torque converter and they couldn't tell me which one was correct even though I had all of the tag numbers off of the transmission along with the year, make and model - and this was for a Chevy Suburban. They told me to go home a Google it.

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This sort of thing seems to be more and more common. Today I went to the grocery store looking for something and after asking 3 different people I gave up. All of them gave me different variations of " it might be on aisle three but if it's not there look over by dairy and if you can't find it there look on aisle 5 ...blah blah blah. I went in to buy one thing and spent 20 minutes on a scavenger hunt and left without my item. Life was simpler before computers made it possible for anyone to get a job.

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Top tip on that bottom left bolt, put your socket and extension on it before you mount the manifold.

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Post by erikv11 »

I see - misread your post as saying that you were planning to re-use the hard pipe.
98v70dad wrote: ... I found a molded heater hose with enough straight section and bends that I can cut, trim and splice it with one splice and it will perfectly match the shape of the original line. it was $9 at Autozone.
Can you post a part number? A pre-formed hose is definitely the way to go for low-cost, worry free breather hose, we should collect up some of the part numbers that work well.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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