2012 S60 T5 blown engine, replaced under Volvo Goodwill Topic is solved

[matthew1]

This looks like another XC90 T6 transmission or ETM fiasco, but more expensive.

[djtomr941]

I tend to doubt a judge will make Volvo pay for such repair. It's sad, and we don't expect and engine to fail at 120k miles, but it happens. Hopefully it's not a design/manufacturing/assembly fault, because then there will be many other in such situation and we will found more about in a couple of years.
If it was related to maintenance or a faulty component - such as a faulty injector that caused a burned valve, little chances Volvo will pay, sued or not.

If you look on swedespeed or volvoforums you can find quite a few people having similar issue. Volvo says the rings are faulty but Goodwill is hit or miss. Very similar to the Audi and Toyota oil burning problems. Audi and Toyota extended the warranty on those engines to 10 years or 150,000 miles. Most 2012 S60 T5 will only be in the 36-48k mileage range. Many more will be popping up.

So probably they had the same oil breather issue (different than the old PCV system). It is very sad to see Volvo management still have the same denial approach as with the XC90 transmissions. It looks like a company culture here.
For having owned an Audi with this issue, and gathering information around the forums, Audi was absolutely helpful without any questioning to all customers - and there were a lot of them with the issue, going with replacing pistons and rings when needed at Audi full expense.

My PCV Breather got clogged probably because of bad rings. When it got clogged the oil consumption was really high. Once the PCV/Breather was replaced it stopped burning oil, or so it seemed. 6,000 miles later and the rod bearing is spun and making a ticking/knocking noise.

[djtomr941]

This looks like another XC90 T6 transmission or ETM fiasco, but more expensive.

It's also one thing to do a recall on software for an oil pressure sensor (over 4 quarts low and it didn't work) which is low cost versus proactively alerting customers to bring their engines and be tested (thousand and thousands of dollars).

[mrbrian200]

Depending on what went bad in there, in addition to disconnecting the fuel injector, it might run a bit "less unbalanced" if you also pull the spark plug for that cylinder. Will be quite noisy though. Be aware that will open that cylinder up to dirt secure a flame retardant cloth over the area if there's a chance for repair instead of engine replacement.

Very long ago for a short time I owned one of those 80-something Buicks with the self destructing V6 (rocker arms pivot on a long steel tube (no bearing), held in alignment by plastic pins we'd normally associate with interior trim). Retainer came out on one of the intake rockers which slid across, pushrod bent and busted off it's guide down in the block (replacement pushrod wouldn't stay on the lifter and would end up down in the engine). Removing the spark plug turned it from a violent unbalance/very hard start to the equivalent of a "miss" reasonably driveable enough to get around town till I could find something else.

[kerico1]

I feel your pain, I have the same car with the same problem, 2012 S60 t5 no compression cylinder #4 I will be putting in a junkyard motor, My car was a lease from a so I don't know what they did for regualer maintanence. They did do however the T Belt at 112K misfire 4 and 5 and a random, no compression in 4

[djtomr941]

Volvo is trying to blame my mechanic for this damage when at 68k all he did was fix a clogged PCV/Breather that was a result of their defect. The damage was probably already done. Their argument to me today was if I had taken it to Volvo for all service then they *might* have been willing to fix the defect in their product.

Maybe we should all contact a lawyer and get a class action going?

[djtomr941]

By the way there is a very good chance even the junk yard motors are bad because many of these cars are affected. If you put in a motor get rid of the car ASAP. It will likely have the same issue.

[JDS60R]

Their argument to me today was if I had taken it to Volvo for all service then they *might* have been willing to fix the defect in their product.

I guess they forgot about the Magnuson -Moss warranty act of 1975.

[matthew1]

^ good point.

[djtomr941]

Their argument to me today was if I had taken it to Volvo for all service then they *might* have been willing to fix the defect in their product.

I guess they forgot about the Magnuson -Moss warranty act of 1975.

Since the car is out of warranty that's now their position. They don't have to provide Goodwill. Others on other forums seem to be ok with Volvo's position that my mechanic *could* have caused this issue. I know he did not. If anything he was only treating one of the many symptoms that occur as a result of this defect. I'm pretty upset with the local manager denying all of our Goodwill. Not going to name names but he is in Philadelphia.