P2 seats' leather ages/lasts much better than P80 Volvos
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- sleddriver
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Re: P2 seats' leather ages/lasts much better than P80 Volvos
Rather than re-type (if I could remember all I wrote), I'll take a photo to save time (a picture is worth a thousand words...)
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- bmdubya1198
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True, photos are always welcomed.sleddriver wrote: ↑30 Aug 2017, 19:13 Rather than re-type (if I could remember all I wrote), I'll take a photo to save time (a picture is worth a thousand words...)
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
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92 245 White/Beige 249k
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…and a bunch of other stuff
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93 944
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07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
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Here's my 2004 S80 leather that I have kept with Armor All. Car has spent the last 3 years out of the garage and I raised 2 children during ownership one 3 and one 7 when I received the car December 2003. The leather is still soft and pliable. The interior has heald up nicely.bmdubya1198 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2017, 20:48True, photos are always welcomed.sleddriver wrote: ↑30 Aug 2017, 19:13 Rather than re-type (if I could remember all I wrote), I'll take a photo to save time (a picture is worth a thousand words...)
Armor All only on leather, the rest with a damp cloth wipe down.
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My Volvo cars owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
- bmdubya1198
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Armor All? Interesting. That isn't too greasy? I only use purpose-made leather cleaners and conditioners on my seats.
I usually just use Meguiar's Gold Class 3 in 1 clean/condition/protect spray. If I'm doing a deeper cleaning, I'll use Lexol PH balanced leather cleaner (orange bottle) and follow with their leather conditioner (brown bottle).
I also have Surf City Garage leather rejuvenator, which works pretty well to soften the leather, but it has an unfavorable smell that sticks around, which is unfortunate because otherwise, it's a really good product.
I usually just use Meguiar's Gold Class 3 in 1 clean/condition/protect spray. If I'm doing a deeper cleaning, I'll use Lexol PH balanced leather cleaner (orange bottle) and follow with their leather conditioner (brown bottle).
I also have Surf City Garage leather rejuvenator, which works pretty well to soften the leather, but it has an unfavorable smell that sticks around, which is unfortunate because otherwise, it's a really good product.
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
…and a bunch of other stuff
Sold-
03 S60 2.4T
00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
88 744 Turbo M46
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
…and a bunch of other stuff
Sold-
03 S60 2.4T
00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
88 744 Turbo M46
- June
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No Armor All is not greasy on the leather. It completely dries in a few minutes and seems to protect the leather. I don't use it on anything else but the leather seats and steering wheel. All plastic and vinyl gets wiped with a cloth damp with water. As you can see my interior has heald up perfectly ie the dash, console, and door panels. Also the leather looks and feels soft. The photos I posted I took just before posting it's been a week since I brushed up the interior.
Lexol ruined the leather in my Buick so I'm not impressed with that product. That Buick dealer recommend it and sold Lexol in their parts department.
By the way the GM window cleaner in the aerosol can is positively the best around. Also I like the product Frigie Fresh that is sprayed into the ac system by both Buick and Volvo dealers keeps the ac system fresh. It's expensive for such a little can but worth it in my opinion. June
Lexol ruined the leather in my Buick so I'm not impressed with that product. That Buick dealer recommend it and sold Lexol in their parts department.
By the way the GM window cleaner in the aerosol can is positively the best around. Also I like the product Frigie Fresh that is sprayed into the ac system by both Buick and Volvo dealers keeps the ac system fresh. It's expensive for such a little can but worth it in my opinion. June
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1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
- sleddriver
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June, your fronts have faired FAR better than mine! I've read that P2 leather is better than P80. Too dark for photos now.
I've been spending time researching new HDLT reflector options.
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- abscate
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I'm sending my cars down to June for detailing.
What's that funny handle sticking up between the seats??

What's that funny handle sticking up between the seats??
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- wizechatmgr
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Wow. How often was the Armor All applied?
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- June
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Once a week when I transported children around and now at least once a month.
In the years past I used the wipes, but now I use the spray bottle spraying the leather directly wiping it off with paper towels.
Being quite familiar with wet wipes at that time (2002) using a product that came in the same convenient packaging seemed easiest to me. To sum it up quick, easy, works, and in convenient wipe form is exactly why I chose Armor All.
I tried all sorts of products on the 2002 S80 and found I liked Armor All best because it left a shiny surface without being greasy other slippery. I am happy with the long term results though that was not my original concern. I am sure there is plenty of great products out there. June
My Volvo cars owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
It definitely comes down to care. There were 2 P2 wagons in the yard this weekend and both drivers seats were completely roached as were the steering wheels. I don't know if black interior folks take better care of their interiors or if tan just sucks, but tan seems to be the regular loser when it comes to leather interiors across most models.
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