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P2 seats' leather ages/lasts much better than P80 Volvos

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Re: P2 seats' leather ages/lasts much better than P80 Volvos

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Unused tan ages well. My backseats look brand new and they're now 20yrs old. The front pass. seat back also looks new.

My steering wheel is OK as well. Parts of it are dark..maybe only the top.
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sleddriver wrote: 05 Sep 2017, 20:28 Unused tan ages well. My backseats look brand new and they're now 20yrs old. The front pass. seat back also looks new.

My steering wheel is OK as well. Parts of it are dark..maybe only the top.
The tan steering wheels do NOT fare well! I had one in my car for a short time, and I made the mistake of trying to re-dye it with some leather paint. Bad idea...
My current black leather wheel, however, is in great shape. I clean it every month or so with Lexol leather cleaner and then condition it with Lexol.
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Really just a guess but I felt like there were two qualities of black leather and at least one of tan leather in the P2. May have changed along the years as well, but the trim level could also be a factor. And from what I've read (and experienced), there may have been cushions of different qualities as well for the front seats.

Besides, the seats in the S80 are more comfortable than in the S60/V70.

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matthew1 wrote: 19 Jul 2016, 11:50 Here's a 2002 V70 AWD for sale in Denver. 178k miles. This is what I'm talking about.

00909_kr3o5zY0Jdv_1200x900.jpg

Did they just drive that off the factory floor into a dealer?

The side bolster is already split open (can be seen just behind the seat belt), but the lower cushion is impressively in good condition. Perhaps the driver was a 100lbs tiny lady.

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oragex wrote: 06 Sep 2017, 15:22
matthew1 wrote: 19 Jul 2016, 11:50 Here's a 2002 V70 AWD for sale in Denver. 178k miles. This is what I'm talking about.

00909_kr3o5zY0Jdv_1200x900.jpg

Did they just drive that off the factory floor into a dealer?

The side bolster is already split open (can be seen just behind the seat belt), but the lower cushion is impressively in good condition. Perhaps the driver was a 100lbs tiny lady.
How did you see that ad? It's over a year old haha.
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
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bmdubya1198 wrote: 06 Sep 2017, 15:47
oragex wrote: 06 Sep 2017, 15:22
matthew1 wrote: 19 Jul 2016, 11:50 Here's a 2002 V70 AWD for sale in Denver. 178k miles. This is what I'm talking about.

00909_kr3o5zY0Jdv_1200x900.jpg

Did they just drive that off the factory floor into a dealer?

The side bolster is already split open (can be seen just behind the seat belt), but the lower cushion is impressively in good condition. Perhaps the driver was a 100lbs tiny lady.
How did you see that ad? It's over a year old haha.

The pictures are still on the 3rd page of the topic I think

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oragex wrote: 06 Sep 2017, 15:50
bmdubya1198 wrote: 06 Sep 2017, 15:47
oragex wrote: 06 Sep 2017, 15:22


The side bolster is already split open (can be seen just behind the seat belt), but the lower cushion is impressively in good condition. Perhaps the driver was a 100lbs tiny lady.
How did you see that ad? It's over a year old haha.

The pictures are still on the 3rd page of the topic I think
Ah, I see.
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
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03 S60 2.4T
00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly:

Rarely used-for-people-hauling backseat:
Volvo_Leather Seat 003.JPG
Volvo_Leather Seat 003.JPG (127.64 KiB) Viewed 1994 times
Rarely used passenger seat. Bottom used to be on drivers side. Seatback is original to pass. side:
Volvo_Leather Seat 002.JPG
Volvo_Leather Seat 002.JPG (160.36 KiB) Viewed 1994 times
Often used driver seat. Bottom swapped over from passenger side. Seatback is original.
Volvo_Leather Seat 001.JPG
Volvo_Leather Seat 001.JPG (177.88 KiB) Viewed 1994 times
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sleddriver wrote: 07 Sep 2017, 13:03 The Good, The Bad and The Ugly:

Rarely used-for-people-hauling backseat:
Volvo_Leather Seat 003.JPG

Rarely used passenger seat. Bottom used to be on drivers side. Seatback is original to pass. side:
Volvo_Leather Seat 002.JPG

Often used driver seat. Bottom swapped over from passenger side. Seatback is original.
Volvo_Leather Seat 001.JPG
Wow, that driver's seat is bad! My driver's seat bottom looked similar to your back except it was covered in red duct tape by the previous owner.
Here are my seats...

I swapped out the driver's seat bottom with one from the junkyard. It's 3990 light taupe, my interior is 3960 light beige. I'll change it to the right color eventually...
IMG_1524.JPG
IMG_1524.JPG (2.46 MiB) Viewed 1959 times
Passenger seat is all original. Just a little cracking and some tears on the front, but the back is perfect.
IMG_1525.JPG
IMG_1525.JPG (2.2 MiB) Viewed 1959 times
Back seats are, as usual, pretty much perfect.
IMG_1526.JPG
IMG_1526.JPG (2.09 MiB) Viewed 1959 times
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
…and a bunch of other stuff
Sold-
03 S60 2.4T
00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
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Post by sleddriver »

Perhaps mine's so bad due to all the hot, spicy food I eat?
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