re-Keying and repurposing Volvo lock cylinders

Post by **SonicAdventure** » 27 May 2017, 18:03

Ok so this is something I have been thinking about for awhile.

Being a gentleman (lol) I like to unlock the passenger door for my little lady...I don't have the electronic release, and on all my old cars I did it with the electronic clicker. Not so on my current Volvo.

I bought a drivers door handle off another car at the junkyard today. The handle fits fine and I know there will be no problem there. My question is related to how can I re-key this handle to my current key? I noticed that in my cargo area my rearmost seat includes a lock mechanism why I do not know...could I repurpose this rear lock tumbler into the door handle?

Post by **BEJinFbk** » 27 May 2017, 18:53

AFAIK, all P80 70 series cars have factory keyless entry.
Why not just get a 9166200 fob and have it programmed in?

Post by **SonicAdventure** » 28 May 2017, 03:51

BEJinFbk wrote: ↑27 May 2017, 18:53 AFAIK, all P80 70 series cars have factory keyless entry.
Why not just get a 9166200 fob and have it programmed in?

You might be right, but I think 98 might be an exception to the rule as 98 doesn't have a chip key. In my dashboard by the windshield there is a plug like all these cars have. However, I bought a sensor out of a 2000 and while the sensor itself fits in the hole, the plug connector is different. I don't know why, but when I bought my car the dashboard plug thing was missing, it was just a broken cap that was only halfway there. I bought the 2000 thing thinking it would solve the problem but the plug is completely different.

Honestly I'd rather have the lock re-keyed. Those electronic clickers just make the key chain more bulky.

Post by **SonicAdventure** » 30 May 2017, 09:43

Trying to figure out how to get this lock cylinder out of the j.y. Handle I bought. I'm assuming the snap ring has something to do with it.

Any ideas ? Think I can get this re-keyed? Or use the lock cylinder from the rear seat?

Post by **Ozark Lee** » 30 May 2017, 19:35

The lock cylinder from the cargo hatch will not fit. It (the cargo hatch cylinder) might fit the glove box but that is about it. As I recall there is a plug in the lock cylinder hole on the passenger's side door handle on the 70 series and my guess is that the same style cylinder for the driver's side will fit the passenger's side. To do this correctly you would want to order a cylinder to match your existing set of keys but that is a pricey mistake if it doesn't work.

If I were dead set to do this rather than fix the keyless entry I would be inclined to buy a pick-n-pull cylinder with a key to try it. You need the key to remove the cylinder from the handle. If it works with the pick-n-pull version then and only then would I pay to have the correct cylinder made.

...Lee

Post by **cn90** » 30 May 2017, 19:40

Maybe I am missing something but if the passenger side does not open:

1. Have you tried turning the key CCW twice (on the driver's side)?

2. If the passenger side does not open, then the actuator is bad. Options:
a. Get in the car and reach over to open the passenger door knob, this can be a pain or can be a joy (good exercise).
b. Remove the resistor feeding the small electrical motor and use a piece of solid wire to bridge it.
c. Buy a new actuator for $150 and done with. This new part should last some 8-10 years.

Post by **BEJinFbk** » 30 May 2017, 20:18

cn90 wrote: ↑30 May 2017, 19:40 Maybe I am missing something but if the passenger side does not open:

1. Have you tried turning the key CCW twice (on the driver's side)?

Good Catch - I totally spaced that!
It's a feature that I've used a million
times and it totally slipped my mind...

Post by **BEJinFbk** » 30 May 2017, 20:21

I'm also wondering - Do the passenger side 70 series latches even
have the latch rod attachment to connect the lock cylinder rod?

Post by **SonicAdventure** » 31 May 2017, 09:29

Ozark Lee wrote: ↑30 May 2017, 19:35 The lock cylinder from the cargo hatch will not fit. It (the cargo hatch cylinder) might fit the glove box but that is about it. As I recall there is a plug in the lock cylinder hole on the passenger's side door handle on the 70 series and my guess is that the same style cylinder for the driver's side will fit the passenger's side. To do this correctly you would want to order a cylinder to match your existing set of keys but that is a pricey mistake if it doesn't work.

If I were dead set to do this rather than fix the keyless entry I would be inclined to buy a pick-n-pull cylinder with a key to try it. You need the key to remove the cylinder from the handle. If it works with the pick-n-pull version then and only then would I pay to have the correct cylinder made.

...Lee

So...

The door handles are totally interchangeable based on my experience. The little trim plate with the keyhole and the blank ones can be changed.

The thing I don't know is if all the lock mechanisms feature the female end of the lock cylinder rod...in other words the lock cylinder could be put in any of the handles, but do all the electronic door locks have the ability to be opened via the turning lock rod in the key operated driver door mechanism? I will have to look in my storage room tonight as I have an old passenger side lock system. Will report back on this.

Are you sure you need the key to remove the locking cylinder? That seems odd because wouldn't one of the main reasons for replacing the cylinder be because of things like a key broken off inside the mechanism or some other physical failure of the cylinder which would or may render the key unusable?

Post by **SonicAdventure** » 31 May 2017, 09:50

cn90 wrote: ↑30 May 2017, 19:40 Maybe I am missing something but if the passenger side does not open:

1. Have you tried turning the key CCW twice (on the driver's side)?

2. If the passenger side does not open, then the actuator is bad. Options:
a. Get in the car and reach over to open the passenger door knob, this can be a pain or can be a joy (good exercise).
b. Remove the resistor feeding the small electrical motor and use a piece of solid wire to bridge it.
c. Buy a new actuator for $150 and done with. This new part should last some 8-10 years.

So, all my door locks are working, and I know the CCW key trick. I don't want the remote fob as it's just one more thing to lose or have break. The reason I don't like the CCW trick or want the fob is because it activates all the locks, there is no point to that if I just want to open the passenger side door. I have never had a car with no passenger side lock cylinder and for some reason it's just really irking me! I feel like it's a safety feature also as these lock cylinders seem finicky- what if my driver side actuator breaks? What am I supposed to do go in through the hatchback until I get it fixed? Passenger side key access just makes sense and I'm surprised Volvo didn't think so as well.