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1998 V70 inner tie rods

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1998 V70 inner tie rods

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About to start a job on my 1998 V70 - changing the inner and outer tie rods.
I've had a look and I am struggling to see how I can get a tool in there to hold the Steering Rack while loosening or tightening the inner tie rod on the driver side.
Any clues or ideas would be welcome. :?:

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For me, I used two pipe wrenches and it was a tight fit.

My neighbor had an offset pipe wrench that helped.

To give you an idea what I did, watch this:
It's on a truck but the principle is the same.
Here's another variation with MUCH better lighting.

In the second video, he uses a combination of a pipe wrench and vice grips. Vice grips would not have worked for me.

Also in second version he takes off one end of the control arm to gain more working space. I can't remember if that would have helped on our Volvos or not.

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Post by woodycaldercloggs »

Thanks for your response.
Problem is - I don't have access to a car lift to enable me to get under it and work like that.

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woodycaldercloggs wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 11:09 Thanks for your response.
Problem is - I don't have access to a car lift to enable me to get under it and work like that.
You will need to raise the front safely, and set it on a jack stand. It can be done. Here is another example:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=88332&start=40
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woodycaldercloggs wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 11:09 Thanks for your response.
Problem is - I don't have access to a car lift to enable me to get under it and work like that.
I don't have a lift like that either. I did mine in my driveway on jack stands.

If you don't have a way to lift the car securely high enough that you can get under it, this job will be extremely difficult to perform.
Might be impossible without some way to lift car 10 inches or so.

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xHeart wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 11:19
woodycaldercloggs wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 11:09 Thanks for your response.
Problem is - I don't have access to a car lift to enable me to get under it and work like that.
You will need to raise the front safely, and set it on a jack stand. It can be done. Here is another example:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=88332&start=40
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I have to admit I don't understand what is going on in that picture. One pair of locking pliers seems to be secured to the adjustment knob of the other pair of locking pliers? Am I seeing that correctly? If so I don't know how that helps or what it does. :-)

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Post by amblerman »

I understand what is going on now.

In the below picture, the yellow arrow points to a hole on a special tool for a ratchet.
That special tool is just a clamp around the tie rod and the hole is for a ratchet used for for unscrewing the tie rod.

The red arrow points in the direction you'd apply force to the locking pliers #2. That would tighten the adjustment screw on the pliers #1 attached to tie rod. Because the direction of force would tighten the adjustment knob, it would also hold the pliers #1 steady and help counteract the force applied through loosening tool (yellow arrow).

I suspect there are two sets of locking pliers in the mix just because of the cramped space and using 2 pliers allowed for a more convenient method of holding things properly.

I have to say, I haven't see that type of tool before (yellow arrow). Very cool.
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Post by woodycaldercloggs »

Once again - many thanks for your response.
One other question. Does it normally need a lot of effort to loosen the inner tie rod - I have read some others methods of doing this job and they don't seem to bother holding the steering rack at all.

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Post by xHeart »

woodycaldercloggs wrote: 16 Apr 2020, 13:41 Once again - many thanks for your response.
One other question. Does it normally need a lot of effort to loosen the inner tie rod - I have read some others methods of doing this job and they don't seem to bother holding the steering rack at all.
How many miles you have on this car? Tie rods too take effort if it is your first time.
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It takes preparation. There is always a chance that steering gear may fail with DIY, viewtopic.php?f=1&t=54721&start=30
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