How do I re-glue the headliner in a wagon (back half fell down)

850forum · Post by **850forum** » 23 Sep 2021, 20:54

The other day the headliner fell down from the rear, held up by the rear door grab bars. There is foam on the roof itself.

I would presume you use a brush or roller to spread glue - a spray can would get overspray everywhere, not to mention breathing it. What kind of glue?

Oh, & how do I remove the plastic trim so I can glue it all the way to the edge & tuck it under neatly? Probably break some clips, got a part number for them?

Post by **FireFox31** » 24 Sep 2021, 01:01

Here's the trim panel above the rear window on a 2000 V70 in case it's at all similar to an 850. There are many cylindrical points on the trim which are held by C clips on the ceiling. Similar C clips are used on the window side of the D pillar, part 3539879. On the trunk door side of the D pillar, there are metal clips, part 31389804. Many of mine broke and I had to order them from a dealership.

Post by **GlennG2759** » 24 Sep 2021, 06:57

Re-gluing with the old headliner foam probably won’t last to long. I did the head headliner in an 850 I had a couple of years ago and it came out nice is is still intact. If your going to tackle this job the headliner backer board has to come out and old foam scraped off the backer board ( completely). A wagon is a little more difficult getting out and would recommend getting some help on removal and install. I couldn’t believe how flimsy the board was. I bought some actual headliner material from Joanne fabrics and 2 or 3 cans of 3M professional spray adhesive. It’s not a very difficult job but time consuming, more like and arts and crafts type of deal. You can use scotch-brite pads for old foam and glue removal. A wall paper seam roller comes in handy too. You can probably do it for about $60. Care must be taken removing trim pieces (A&B pullers, sun roof trim) they’re old and brittle. OR you can go cheap route and possibly try some adhesive and some push pins if all you want to do is hold it up. I believe there is a could write up in the forum which I followed. Good luck.

Post by **amblerman** » 24 Sep 2021, 07:16

GlennG2759 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2021, 06:57 Re-gluing with the old headliner foam probably won’t last to long. I did the head headliner in an 850 I had a couple of years ago and it came out nice is is still intact. If your going to tackle this job the headliner backer board has to come out and old foam scraped off the backer board ( completely). A wagon is a little more difficult getting out and would recommend getting some help on removal and install. I couldn’t believe how flimsy the board was. I bought some actual headliner material from Joanne fabrics and 2 or 3 cans of 3M professional spray adhesive. It’s not a very difficult job but time consuming, more like and arts and crafts type of deal. You can use scotch-brite pads for old foam and glue removal. A wall paper seam roller comes in handy too. You can probably do it for about $60. Care must be taken removing trim pieces (A&B pullers, sun roof trim) they’re old and brittle. OR you can go cheap route and possibly try some adhesive and some push pins if all you want to do is hold it up. I believe there is a could write up in the forum which I followed. Good luck.

The reason why that step is important is one (if not the) reason the headliner fails is the foam itself is failing and structurally falling apart. If you try to glue it up as is, the failing foam is still there and your repair will fail prematurely as the remaining foam falls apart.

-A

Post by **Chuck W** » 24 Sep 2021, 08:17

Pull the entire headliner board out, remove all of the old material and foam, and install new material.

Post by **BlackBart** » 24 Sep 2021, 12:27

I love that roof!

850forum · Post by **850forum** » 24 Sep 2021, 18:31

Didn't know there was a backer board. So you remove the board & spray the adhesive out of doors, and you don't have to work over your head with the roller & fight gravity?

Must be a pain to remove all the trim. How do you get the overhead light control console out?

So you don't replace the old foam with anything? That must increase noise & make temperature control more difficult (the A/C can take a long long time to cool the wagon !).

Post by **GlennG2759** » 24 Sep 2021, 19:44

Yes, trim breaks very easily, especially sunroof. Backer board is very thin, I removed the passenger seat when I reinstalled, because I was working solo.
Headliner fabric comes with a foam backer. When I purchased mine they had tan and grey available, I got the tan and almost perfect match. Take your time.

lcc014 · Post by **lcc014** » 25 Sep 2021, 07:16

I replaced mine (wagon) back in 2015. As other members said, the first step is to remove all the plastic trim pieces with care and then drop the headlinear from the front to back. There are velcro tape in the "center" of the headlinear, around the B pillar section to hold the headlinear. I was lucky that I found the Tan color headlinear material which came with foam backing which matched my car. I used 3M Foam Fast 74 adhesives. I watched many headlinear replacement video in Youtube before this project.
All the old foam were removed then new foam was put on. After that, all the holes were cut. I did that in 3 days. When I put on the new foam material, my daughter and wife helped me to press the foam onto the headlinear backing.

Post by **Chuck W** » 25 Sep 2021, 07:48

It's like an afternoon project. Having an extra set of hands to help manage installing the new material is helpful.

Get all of the old material and foam off the backer (A stiff brush works well to remove the old foam. Not a metal bristle one.) Lay the backer on a flat surface and lay the new material over it. Then fold half of it back. Spray the exposed halves of the backer and material and assemble per the adhesive's instructions. Once in place, fold the other half over and repeat.